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Counterpoint

Game ID: GID0452747
Game Info
Year
2019
Players
2-4
Age
14+
Playtime
30 min
Complexity
2/5
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Description

Cooperative classical music trick-taking game with bidding where players avoid losing cards

Description

Cooperative classical music trick-taking game with bidding where players avoid losing cards

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Video fN1_ITQ6pgg Let's Table It Review at 0:29 sentiment: positive
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Overall sentiment (raw)
positive
Pros
  • The musical theme elevates the gameplay.
  • The musical details are genuinely thoughtful.
  • Excited to continue working through the challenge book.
Cons
  • Won't be the right fit for groups that mostly play at two players (requires at least three).
  • If traditional trick-taking games have never clicked, the theme might not be enough on its own.
Thematic elements
  • Players become chamber musicians preparing for a performance.
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Comparison games
  • The Crew
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
  • Campaign play — The music book is a campaign of increasingly difficult challenges that introduce new rules and performance notes.
  • communication restrictions — Playing under the same communication restrictions many games in this genre use.
  • cooperative play — A medium-light cooperative trick-taking game where players work together.
  • Hand Management — Everyone is dealt a hand of cards, passes one card to another player, and bids how many cards they'll take in their suit.
  • special abilities — Each player receives a unique technique card with a special ability.
  • Trick-Taking — Familiar trick-taking rules where you must follow suit if possible and the highest card wins the trick. A designated melody suit acts as trump.
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • But, for me, one thing immediately made it stand out. And it's the reason I think this game will find a permanent place on my shelf.
  • What immediately stood out to me is the theme.
  • As a music teacher, this is so much more appealing to me than a generic space theme or an abstract mission structure.
  • The musical theme elevates an already solid cooperative trick-taking system, and I'm excited to continue working through the challenge book.
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Video iF-zRsNS4sc Let's Table It Review at 0:05 sentiment: positive
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Overall sentiment (raw)
positive
Pros
  • Loved the attention to detail from the composers to the repertoire.
Cons
none
Thematic elements
  • chamber musicians
Comparison games
  • The Crew
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
  • Trick-Taking — It follows classic trick-taking rules
  • Unique technique cards — every player also gets a unique technique card with a special ability.
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • If you loved the crew, but not the theme, I think I found your next game.
References (from this video)
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Video UnTL-_1oNeM Good Time Society Discussion at 14:17 sentiment: positive
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Overall sentiment (raw)
positive
Pros
  • Co-op trick taking game
  • Uses music
  • Play along make use the notes of your cards to make a musical motif
Cons
none
Thematic elements
  • Co-op classical music
Comparison games
  • The Crew
  • Lord of the Rings
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
  • cooperative play — It's a co-op trick taking game.
  • Trick-Taking — It's a trick taking game.
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • Oh my god, there's lasers going everywhere.
  • We're still focused on board games, beverages, and shenanigans.
  • I am the problem.
  • Pinched is a game from Mighty Boards that I have not played yet.
  • This is the big giveaway.
  • Congrats on 100.
  • It's a game of woodland critters murdering each other.
  • I am the Lord of the Hundreds in celebration of our hundth episode.
  • My mission in life acquired.
  • The size of it.
  • The Spiel Foundation.
  • The Doven Center for Play.
  • It's the next one in the series.
  • The Sagrada Remastered edition, the latest one.
  • I don't really want to do any of these actions cuz I want her point or her piece here to get an oversee point.
  • I have to battle in two bunny clearings.
  • I'm going to go for a dominance win.
  • I'm paralyzed.
  • This game will never end.
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Video 9AsHoBGmVWg kovray Review
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Pros
none
Cons
none
Thematic elements
none
Comparison games
none
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
Mechanics unknown.
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • But the part that makes this game the most unique, I think, is when you're bidding, you're bidding for a specific cards you're going to take, not tricks.
  • There's like some interesting tension points that you're going to go through where you have five notes, for example, in a four-player game. You collect four of the right cards, and now you have to figure out how to get that last single card, but also make sure that you're handing out the cards that are extra in your hands to the players that need them.
  • The passing is another really important part that it's funny cuz Tyler ranks trick-taking games based on if they have a pass mechanic or not.
  • I like how dramatic they can be because you have that ability and you're usually have a pretty good sense of when you want to use it.
  • If you are interested in a trick-taking game with a bit of a twist, this is a fantastic cooperative variant.
  • And the theme for this one is very different. It's very heartwarming with the concerts and the performances that you get to handle.
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Video 9AsHoBGmVWg kovray Review at 0:05 sentiment: positive
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Overall sentiment (raw)
positive
Pros
  • Cooperative trick-taking is an exciting and uncommon combination.
  • Bidding for specific cards rather than tricks is unique.
  • The passing mechanic is vital for cooperation and adds interesting decisions.
  • Technique cards offer dramatic and impactful moments.
  • The mini-campaign feature provides a fun way to experience the game.
  • The theme is heartwarming and different from typical trick-taking games.
Cons
none
Thematic elements
  • Musicians putting on a performance.
Comparison games
  • The Crew
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
  • Bidding for cards — Instead of bidding for tricks, players bid for specific cards they need to collect to fulfill objectives.
  • card passing — Players simultaneously pass one card to the player on their left, adding a layer of coordination.
  • cooperative trick-taking — Players work together to win tricks, which is a core element of the game.
  • Mini-campaign — Players can create a mini-campaign by playing a series of performances in a chosen order.
  • Rest cards — Cards used to manipulate tricks or secure important cards.
  • technique cards — One-time use abilities that can be used at key moments to manipulate tricks or avoid difficult situations.
  • Trump suit — A melody suit acts as a trump suit, overriding the lead suit when played.
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • But the part that makes this game the most unique, I think, is when you're bidding, you're bidding for a specific cards you're going to take, not tricks.
  • There's like some interesting tension points that you're going to go through where you have five notes, for example, in a four-player game. You collect four of the right cards, and now you have to figure out how to get that last single card, but also make sure that you're handing out the cards that are extra in your hands to the players that need them.
  • The passing is another really important part that it's funny cuz Tyler ranks trick-taking games based on if they have a pass mechanic or not.
  • I like how dramatic they can be because you have that ability and you're usually have a pretty good sense of when you want to use it.
  • If you are interested in a trick-taking game with a bit of a twist, this is a fantastic cooperative variant.
  • And the theme for this one is very different. It's very heartwarming with the concerts and the performances that you get to handle.
References (from this video)
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Video 2VllAWP5JCU kovray Rules Teach at 0:00
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Pros
none
Cons
none
Thematic elements
none
Comparison games
none
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
Mechanics unknown.
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • Counterpoint is a cooperative trick-taking game for three to five players.
  • Communication during the performance is limited.
  • The melody suit acts as a trump suit for the performance.
  • To successfully complete a performance, every player must meet or exceed their individual bid. And the group must also satisfy all goals, restrictions, and special conditions listed in the performance notes.
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Video 2VllAWP5JCU kovray Rules Teach at 0:05 sentiment: positive
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Overall sentiment (raw)
positive
Pros
  • Cooperative trick-taking game that is unique.
  • Clear win/loss condition as a group.
  • Interesting theme of classical musicians.
  • Strategic bidding system adds depth.
  • Technique cards provide unique actions.
  • Concert variant offers a greater challenge and campaign play.
Cons
none
Thematic elements
  • Classical musicians performing masterworks from the chamber music repertoire.
Comparison games
none
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
  • bidding — Players bid on note tokens which represent the number of cards of their suit they aim to collect, influencing their responsibility.
  • cooperative play — Players work together as a group to achieve common goals, winning or losing as a team.
  • Hand Management — Players manage their hand of cards, deciding which to play, pass, or use with special abilities.
  • Set Collection — Players collect cards of their chosen suit to fulfill their bids and contribute to the group's success.
  • Trick-Taking — A core mechanic where players play cards in turns, with a winner determined by the highest card of the lead suit or trump suit.
  • Trump suit — The melody suit functions as a trump suit, overriding the lead suit in trick-taking.
  • Variable player powers — Musician cards determine a player's primary suit, and technique cards offer unique, once-per-performance abilities.
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • Counterpoint is a cooperative trick-taking game for three to five players.
  • Communication during the performance is limited.
  • The melody suit acts as a trump suit for the performance.
  • To successfully complete a performance, every player must meet or exceed their individual bid. And the group must also satisfy all goals, restrictions, and special conditions listed in the performance notes.
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Video xL_nv5DXmNw Board Game Buzz Playthrough at 9:49 sentiment: positive
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Overall sentiment (raw)
positive
Pros
  • Strong variety through many scenarios
  • Innovative cooperative twist on a familiar trick-taking mechanic
  • Distinctive musical theme and presentation
Cons
  • Rules can be complex for new players
Thematic elements
  • Music, teamwork, and strategy in cooperative trick-taking.
  • Orchestra/music-themed cooperative trick-taking with multiple scenarios.
  • scenario-driven with modular content (60+ scenarios mentioned).
Comparison games
  • The Crew
  • Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring (board game)
  • Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (board game)
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
  • cooperative trick-taking — Players work together to win tricks with shared objectives and individual powers.
  • musical-draft drafting — At round start, musical notes influence which cards you can win and how many you can take.
  • player powers — Each player can activate special abilities that drastically change the game state.
  • Scenario / Mission / Campaign Game — A broad library of scenarios providing varied win conditions and difficulty.
  • scenario-based gameplay — A broad library of scenarios providing varied win conditions and difficulty.
  • Trick-Taking — Players work together to win tricks with shared objectives and individual powers.
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • I lowkey kind of fell in love with this game.
  • I love rolling right games just in general.
  • This is a roll and write game that has a real time element to it that I've never played a roll and write game that does that.
  • Clover, I've been meaning to pick up this game for ages and it was a great price. It was $16 and so I just I had to.
  • I typically don't like word games but I I love So Clover.
  • I was really impressed with it. I really like I I want to sit and play it again.
  • Actually, I would love to sit and play.
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Video KPYIZg6QlOQ Review at 0:04 sentiment: positive
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Overall sentiment (raw)
positive
Pros
  • Unique cooperative trick-taker
  • The theme is relevant and enhances gameplay
  • Feels like a performance
  • Cohesive theme and gameplay
  • Smoother feel than other cooperative trick-takers
  • Whimsy and elegance in production
  • Different feeling compared to The Crew or Lord of the Rings trick-takers
  • Delivers the genre in a quality way, but different
  • Has wider appeal in certain areas
  • A massive win in a niche corner of the hobby
Cons
  • Still difficult and head-scratchy at times
Thematic elements
  • Playing a piece of music
Comparison games
  • The Crew
  • Lord of the Rings trick-takers
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
  • bidding — At this point comes the bid where going around folks will bid on how many cards of their suit they will win.
  • cooperative trick-taking — This is a new cooperative trick-taker coming on to the scene. You're going to be working together to play a piece of music. Each player having a designated suit they're trying to win cards of. A trump suit will be revealed. Folks will bid on how many cards of their suit they will win. You were trying to capture cards of your color. You have a rest card and a special power that can be used to assist in achieving the goals of the mission.
  • Mission/Objective Fulfillment — the game also comes with a collection of pieces to perform that will add challenge and quirks to the play. Different restrictions, goals, etc. If all players have met or exceeded their bids and any specific goals of the chapter were met, then you have successfully won Counterpoint.
  • Set Collection — you were trying to capture cards of your color.
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • Counterpoint is really a delight.
  • Counterpoint is a massive win in such a specific niche corner of an already niche corner of the hobby.
  • I really hope you go check this one out. It is really fun.
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