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Shadows over Camelot

Game ID: GID0283925
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2005
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Description

Shadows over Camelot is a cooperative/semi-cooperative hand-management and deduction-based board game for 3–7 players.

Each player represents a knight of the Round Table and they must collaborate to overcome a number of quests, ranging from defeating the Black Knight to the search for the Holy Grail. Completed quests place white swords on the Round Table; failed quests add black swords and/or siege engines around Camelot. The knights are trying to build a majority of white swords on the Table before Camelot falls.

On each knight's turn, the knight takes a "heroic action", such as moving to a new quest, building his hand, or playing cards to advance the forces of good. However, he must also choose one of three evil actions, each of which will bring Camelot closer to defeat.

Moreover, one of the knights may be a traitor, pretending to be a loyal member of the party but secretly hindering his fellow knights in subtle ways, biding his time, waiting to strike at the worst possible moment...

But enough words... don your cloak, climb astride your warhorse, and gallop into the Shadows to join us in Camelot!

Description

Shadows over Camelot is a cooperative/semi-cooperative hand-management and deduction-based board game for 3–7 players.

Each player represents a knight of the Round Table and they must collaborate to overcome a number of quests, ranging from defeating the Black Knight to the search for the Holy Grail. Completed quests place white swords on the Round Table; failed quests add black swords and/or siege engines around Camelot. The knights are trying to build a majority of white swords on the Table before Camelot falls.

On each knight's turn, the knight takes a "heroic action", such as moving to a new quest, building his hand, or playing cards to advance the forces of good. However, he must also choose one of three evil actions, each of which will bring Camelot closer to defeat.

Moreover, one of the knights may be a traitor, pretending to be a loyal member of the party but secretly hindering his fellow knights in subtle ways, biding his time, waiting to strike at the worst possible moment...

But enough words... don your cloak, climb astride your warhorse, and gallop into the Shadows to join us in Camelot!

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Video 4OHWCxS0MJk Rolling Dice & Taking Names Discussion at 1:31:12 sentiment: neutral
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Overall sentiment (raw)
neutral
Pros
none
Cons
  • Lost to Candyland in a popularity poll.
Thematic elements
Comparison games
  • Candyland
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
Mechanics unknown.
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • it's a popularity contest
  • those are your gateway games that will eventually lead to the pandemics
  • I'm not gonna begrudge anybody to sit and play Monopoly that that's all they know man
  • if you like monopoly you might like and then suggest something else
  • I will play Monopoly with you anytime as long as we play by the rules
  • there's the problem everybody has a slight what do you play with this particular rule no there's no house rules play by the real rules
  • I think that's a natural step and I think people could easily go from monopoly to ticket to ride
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Video YBXqAiCyVPc Watch It Played Discussion at 2:31
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Pros
none
Cons
  • Group does not speak in character
Thematic elements
  • Camelot
  • Speaking in character as rules suggest
Comparison games
none
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
Mechanics unknown.
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • Once you've bought the game it's yours to do with as you see fit there aren't any rules police that are going to come knocking at the door if you don't abide by the rule book
  • At the end of the day if there's a rule that's just getting in the way of you being able to enjoy that game that you spent your money on then why not change it and get on with enjoying the game
  • I realized that I started this video in the original table talk episode being a little more staunchly against house rules and as this discussion went on and you guys provide these different responses I had to reconsider my position I think I actually am a little more open to host rules than I first imagined myself being
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Video hwpSQbHxK7o 3 Minute Board Games Top List at 11:43 sentiment: mixed
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Overall sentiment (raw)
mixed
Pros
  • Pretty damn good game
  • First hidden traitor game played
Cons
  • Has been sitting on the shelf gathering dust
  • Groups prefer Battle Star Galactica for the hidden traitor experience
  • Occupied much of the same space as Battle Star Galactica
Thematic elements
Comparison games
  • Battle Star Galactica
  • Dead of Winter
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
Mechanics unknown.
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • hello and welcome to games that left my collection in 2018 this is a list of 10 games I've gotten rid of over the last year or so
  • not every game needs to stay in your collection especially not if you found a game that does much the same thing only a lot better for you
  • I don't have to be the one that owns everything I don't have to be the person in the group that owns every single game other people can own games and I can borrow them off them that's fine that's great
  • it's actually quite neat for other people in your group to go actually this is the game I want to own I want to add this to my shelf and for you to go cool you you get that one that's awesome I don't need every single game
  • the app absolutely killed my interest in playing this as a solo on the tabletop or as a multiplayer game
  • all I could think was this is an improved version of Arkham Horror wow I must be totally out of line with what everyone else is thinking because I'm not enjoying this at all
  • it really bugs me when the optimal way to play someone is so utterly boring
  • one thing that drove me up the wall was when a character would be at one location discover a clue but then anyone could act on it so if you were on the opposite side of the map you could go and complete that assignment and it just didn't make any sense to me
  • Foreclosed is just rubbish
  • you either have to play down so people can learn the game or you play your ability and people just get stomped
  • it's just because the groups I play with if they want that hidden Trader experience they're going to play Battle Star Galactica and shadows of Camelot just occupied much of the same space
  • no game is for everyone and Through the Ages is not for me
  • it's just such a time consumer there's so much fiddling around with cubes and the game just has a heck of a lot of downtime when it's someone else's turn
  • my only real regret with this one is that I got rid of it just before I started the channel because despite my reservations with the game I think it's one that would do quite well as a 3-minute recap
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Video UKko5RbQQPM BoardGameBollocks Top List at 1:45 sentiment: positive
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Overall sentiment (raw)
positive
Pros
  • Original hidden traitor game
  • Fantastic production quality
  • Still looks awesome
Cons
  • Out of print
  • Goes for stupid money
Thematic elements
  • Arthurian legend, betrayal
  • The court of King Arthur
Comparison games
  • Battlestar Galactica
  • The Resistance
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
  • cooperative play — you're going to be taken on the role of one of the members of the Arthurian Court
  • hidden traitor — Shadows over Camelot is the original hidden traitor game.
  • Set Collection — you'll be trying to get a certain number of white swords onto the round table whilst avoiding getting any black swords on the round table.
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • I hope you [__] are interally grateful to me for causing myself this much pain and suffering
  • Panic on Wall Street is way out of print so I'm not like dangling carrots or anything but if you can find it and you can afford to buy the vacant Epstein Island then Panic on Wall Street is a fantastic investment
  • Shadows over Camelot is the original hidden traitor game maybe it laid the groundwork for other games like Battle Star Galactica and smaller games like the resistance and all that [__]
  • the combat system does leave the other players just sitting there toling their thumbs quite a bit there's a little bit of downtime on this and it is a really long game
  • Picture Perfect is a Zen like experience for me and it allows me that sort of breathing space to go back to kicking all you [__] heads in when I lose or rag
  • it's huge it's vast it's confusing and we love it
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Video lFAO5TFZn-8 BoardGameBollocks Top List at 9:33 sentiment: positive
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Overall sentiment (raw)
Positive
Pros
  • One of the first hidden traitor games
  • Lighter, easier, and quicker than comparable games
  • Fantastic component quality
  • Still reasonably affordable if picked up second-hand
Cons
  • Expansion (Merlin's Company) is nearly impossible to get hold of
  • Second-hand copies go for stupid money
Thematic elements
  • Knights of the Round Table
  • Camelot
Comparison games
  • Battlestar Galactica
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
  • Card Play — Players use cards to play poker-style hands.
  • cooperative play — Players work together to achieve a common goal.
  • hidden traitor — One player might be a traitor working against the group.
  • roll and move — Implied by the context of playing cards and completing quests, though not explicitly detailed as the primary movement mechanic.
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • it's Shadows over Camelot yeah
  • one of you may be a dirty filthy traitor and you'll be working against the other players trying to make bad [__] happen without getting caught
  • credited as being one of the first hidden traitor games
  • it's lighter and easier to play and quicker than games like battar Galactica
  • the component quality is fantastic this comes from an era when desel Wonder actually made quality games
  • this is Memoir 44
  • the reason I was Al and earin but sticking this on the list is because I own almost everything that's been produced for this game
  • the only problem I've got with Memoir 44 it's getting to the point now where it looks as stuffy as a geriatrics [__]
  • if it was made sort of compatible with the existing stuff you sort of edge your way into it you know sort of wean yourself off of the old stuff and gradually buy the new stuff as it come along then maybe they could make this game feel like more modern have updated components
  • something like 20 years old it's about time that we all admitted to ourselves that there needs to be a reprint of this a refresh it needs to be brought up to date with the current fantastic high quality standards of modern board games
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Video s7BkpEBpHyw Chairman of the Board Top List at 18:58 sentiment: positive
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Overall sentiment (raw)
Positive
Pros
  • An oldie but a goodie
Cons
none
Thematic elements
Comparison games
none
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
Mechanics unknown.
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • Cooperative games are actually not my forte I don't play too many of them and when I do play them and the ones I enjoy tend to be on the lighter end of the spectrum
  • if you're looking for the highly and heavily involved complex Cooperative games then you're probably not going to find many of those kind of games on this list these are a lot breezier because that's what I tend to enjoy when working with others
  • I didn't realize how much I enjoyed Real Time games until kind of going back through this uh list
  • Sometimes that is not always necessary and for me these are two perfect examples of that where game play Just trumps everything
  • Such a cool concept it works beautifully and I can't create ize the game at all I think it is that much fun and a true game that anybody can play drop in and out of it's just a blast
  • And yeah there is good as party games get and as good as coopertive games get in my opinion
  • Now I understand they're not heavy complex involved games with lots of strategy but sometimes that is not always necessary and for me these are two perfect examples of that where game play Just trumps everything
  • Spirit Island a fantastic heavy Euro game that didn't quite work for me in terms of being a bit overwhelming and I was so bad at it but gameplay wise it is um pretty magnificent
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Video pkI25DaHAWo BoardGameBollocks Top List at 5:09 sentiment: positive
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Overall sentiment (raw)
positive
Pros
  • One of the best hidden traitor games
Cons
  • Out of print
Thematic elements
  • King Arthur's court
Comparison games
none
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
  • action selection — On your turn you'll choose something good to happen and then you'll have to choose something bad to happen.
  • Area Majority — You win if at the end of the game you got more white swords on the board that and black s.
  • hidden traitor — Credited for being the first hidden traitor game. A hidden traitor can choose something bad deliberately.
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • if your top 100 ball games aren't on this list that's because a we haven't played them B we think they complete dog [ __ ]
  • You could accuse Eric M Lang of copying a lot of ideas from his other games and just reimplementing them in Rising Sun but it's different enough from another couple of games that he's done for us to pick it up and keep playing it
  • ordinarily I hate roll and move you must know that by now but like a lot of these games I can make exceptions for formula D
  • it does tell one of the most hilarious and memorable stories that you likely to get in a board game
  • This is one of those rare occasions where the theme isn't pasted on and it actually attaches itself to the mechanics of the game in a kind of sort of expert manner
  • You win if at the end of the game you got more white swords on the board that and black s
  • It's like a two- tiered mechanical system going on here
  • It can be a little bit hairy bit like my knck sack if I run out of Lady Shavers
  • The fact that you're going to be getting stuff on other people's turns and the game moves really really quickly means that there is basically zero downtime in this game here
  • Eldj horror ended up with more [ __ ] babies than alucino at 86
  • it's another one of those Amor trash storytelling games where sometimes you just want to sit back put your feet up and let the dice do the talking and have a good old rump around the world and not give a flying [ __ ] about what is going on around you
  • If you're not really that good at fondling people's sacks then Eclipse may not be for you
  • have you decided to jump off a Motorway Bridge without a trampoline I hope not
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Video GS-SsFY2RuU UndeadVikingVideos Discussion at 25:57 sentiment: positive
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Overall sentiment (raw)
positive
Pros
  • Good for introducing the traitor mechanic to new players
Cons
  • Needs to be reprinted
  • Out of print and expensive
Thematic elements
  • Camelot
Comparison games
none
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
  • traitor mechanic — Introduces the concept of a traitor within the group.
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • Playing without Val I mean like the moment you play with Valhalla that's the moment you realize I will never not play with balla
  • it is now I believe in my top 30 games of all time
  • it's not a looker I mean it's just cards a board
  • worst demo of any game ever with that ascendency game
  • the rakugan game that's B based in uh the l5r universe
  • Roller ball is an incoherent mess a jumble of footage in search of plot meaning Rhythm and sense
  • I'm this close to a North American cable deal
  • Roller ball has a scene where they they have to all her night vision goggles yeah but but it's like but for you know but for whatever Reon I forget the exact reason is but then the camera goes into the night vision look you know so you can see where the night vision but then they take off their night vision goggles but you continue in the night vision look
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Video NBrVGXOlT9I Board Game Critique Top 8 List at 2:11 sentiment: positive
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Overall sentiment (raw)
positive
Pros
  • Tense atmosphere and meaningful choices
  • Strong group dynamics at larger player counts
Cons
  • Can stall with long deliberations
  • Less satisfying at very low player counts
Thematic elements
  • paranoia and betrayal within a cooperative quest
  • Camelot, with quests and a round table
  • mythic questing with potential traitor sabotage
Comparison games
  • Betrayal at House on the Hill
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
  • Cooperative Game — Players work together to complete quests for the realm.
  • cooperative questing — Players work together to complete quests for the realm.
  • hidden traitor mechanic — There may be a traitor among players who sabotages quests.
  • Multi-Use Cards — Cards influence quest outcomes and can pressure accusations.
  • Public and black cards — Cards influence quest outcomes and can pressure accusations.
  • Traitor Game — There may be a traitor among players who sabotages quests.
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • Massive social deduction in a cursed village.
  • The storyteller moderates, keeps balance, and adds drama.
  • Every game forms a new narrative.
  • One Night Ultimate Werewolf: Lightning fast. Social deduction.
  • The traitor subtly tanks quests, plays black cards, or pressures the table into false accusations.
  • Carl became the traitor before his character even got to move.
  • We spent the rest of the game running and screaming, 'Carl!'
  • It's the best feeling for the traitor and the worst for everyone else.
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Video KLWi8e6FtPg The Dice Tower Top 100 List at 0:54 sentiment: mixed
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Overall sentiment (raw)
mixed
Pros
  • Strong thematic hook and betrayal element; good for groups
Cons
  • Flaws become more apparent with age; game balance can be uneven
Thematic elements
  • cooperation under suspicion, loyalty, and subterfuge
  • Arthurian Camelot; cooperative questing with a traitor mechanic
  • mythic/legendary quests with a traitor twist
Comparison games
  • The Lord of the Rings (Knizia)
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
  • cooperative gameplay with traitor mechanic — Players work together to complete quests while one player may secretly betray the group.
  • group decision making and suspicion — Deductions and mistrust influence choices and outcomes.
  • quest cards / narrative-driven objectives — Quests provide thematic goals that drive player actions.
  • Traitor Game — Players work together to complete quests while one player may secretly betray the group.
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • this was the game that put cooperative games on the map because I played this I played Lord of the Rings from Knizia, but this was the game that did it and also added that traitor aspect which was so interesting.
  • I really enjoyed playing it.
  • the cleanest version of Carcassonne I think
  • Mystery of the Abbey is fantastic.
  • It's a game of pure logic until it's not.
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Pros
none
Cons
none
Thematic elements
Comparison games
none
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
  • traitor element — The game has a traitor element, which could appear or is always there.
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • after playing it, uh, the the the reaction that I saw when that first epidemic hit where people got out of their seats
  • Oh, really?
  • out where the epi- Yeah, when the when they find out, "Oh my god, where is the epidemic going to hit?" Uh, and I looked I went, "Yeah, I'm doing this game."
  • Was there much co-op back then?
  • No. So, there there were only a few co-op games and they all and they all had except for maybe one, they all had a traitor element to it, which could appear or is always there. Like Shadows over Camelot, I believe. Uh, that was the big one back the the the modern one back then.
  • Uh, I believe there was one full co-op game and I want to say it was a Hobbit game.
  • Uh, you know, a a Lord of the Rings Hobbit type game where it was a full co-op. Uh, but yeah, there were really not
  • Nothing. No hits.
  • It wasn't a culture at all.
  • Yeah, and people tried to talk me out of it.
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Video EXgFlIBdqzE Rules Teach at 0:35 sentiment: positive
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Overall sentiment (raw)
positive
Pros
  • Still a good game
  • Engaging cooperative gameplay
  • Tense traitor mechanic
  • Unique communication rules
  • Variety of quests
  • Special abilities for each knight
Cons
  • Can be lost if traitor goes undetected
  • Accusations can be bad for morale if wrong
  • Potential for Camelot to fall under siege engines or too many black swords
Thematic elements
  • Arthurian quests and battling forces of evil, potentially with a traitor among the Knights of the Round Table.
  • Camelot
Comparison games
none
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
  • Accusation — A heroic action allows players to accuse another of being the traitor, with specific consequences for both loyal and traitorous revealed players.
  • Combat — Certain quests involve playing fight cards to overcome black fight cards or battle against siege engines.
  • cooperative play — Players team up to battle evil and complete quests, with a shared win/loss condition for loyal knights.
  • Hand Management — Players must keep their hands secret and make vague allusions to their cards.
  • Push Your Luck — Players can spend life points to perform an additional action, risking their health for more progress.
  • questing — Players work to complete various Arthurian quests, which add white swords for success and black swords for failure to the Round Table.
  • Set Collection — Discarding three identical cards can be used to gain one life.
  • traitor mechanic — One player may secretly be a traitor aiming for the loyal knights to lose.
  • Variable player powers — Each knight has a special ability, such as King Arthur's ability to swap a white card or Sir Galahad's ability to play special white cards for free.
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • Shadows over Camelot was one of the first modern Cooperative board games and it's still a good one
  • keep your hand secret no talking about what cards you have instead you'll make vague illusions to the contents of your hand
  • The Traer only wins if all the other players lose
  • Shadows over Camelot the group project simulator
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Overall sentiment (raw)
neutral
Pros
none
Cons
none
Thematic elements
Comparison games
none
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
Mechanics unknown.
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • I'm not a businessman. Uh, I am not jack business Eddie.
  • If you build it, they'll come.
  • The cult of new is so strong that I feel like having a lot of content saying older games are also still really great. Um, yeah, can also counteract that.
  • The entire Carboard Herald experiment, uh, has been about a dialogue, uh, between the people hosting it and an audience about sharing enthusiastic love for tabletop gaming and the people who make it.
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Video l7OEGDl_6rY Top List at 4:01 sentiment: positive
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Overall sentiment (raw)
Positive
Pros
  • Considered a classic hidden traitor game.
  • Definitively on both hosts' lists.
Cons
none
Thematic elements
  • Knights saving Camelot, potential traitor
  • Camelot
Comparison games
none
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
  • cooperative play — Loyal Knights unite to save Camelot
  • hidden traitor — old school hidden Trader Trad
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • so we have a list of every single game that was released in 2005 and we're going to go through all of them in a three-hour episode absolutely not
  • we have a potential pool of 25 board games but only 10 can be inducted into our newly minted Hall of Fame that's the rules that's the rules only 10 we made them up that's the rules
  • you could argue with us in the comments and tell us why we're wrong you could do that always an option
  • I'm going to be real honest with everyone that this list of games from 2005 there are a bunch on here I don't know
  • that is like the oldest of old school hidden Trader Trad
  • it spawned so many other games right we have a ton of games in this Arkham Horror World which is obviously the world of HP Lovecraft
  • I think wits and wagers is a is a classic
  • it is on my list it's one of the very early like kind of worker placement kind of mean Euro dry Euro kind of game that I played
  • this is like a grill game for people
  • wow we didn't even rehearse that
  • it sounds like if your jam is hidden rolls or social deduction style games and you haven't played Shadow hunters and you see it out in the wild maybe pick KCK it maybe give it a whirl you might like it
  • if this isn't a classic game I don't know what it is
  • it is ubiquitous when it comes to board games not just the theme but sooner or later if you're talking about board games eventually Arkham Horror is going to hit the table
  • many aboard gamer covet this
  • people still talk about I mean any game that you're still it's 20 years old and you're like I should play that sometimes
  • I may have my Nostalgia goggles on and uh you know be looking at it through those rosecolor glasses
  • it's a game 100% you can play with your kids
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Video doJoJsXRsw8 Analysis at 43:16 sentiment: positive
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Overall sentiment (raw)
Positive, with reservations
Pros
  • Good game
  • Influential in spawning other games
Cons
  • Potential flaw with cards
  • Not currently in print
Thematic elements
  • Arthurian Legend
Comparison games
  • Battlestar Galactica
  • Dead of Winter
  • Unfathomable
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
  • traitor mechanic — Mentioned as a key mechanic that influenced later games in the genre.
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • I think from my perspective based on what I've seen of the games that they inducted the original 25 uh I just wanted to speculate on what the next 25 would be
  • there's some interesting gaps in the 25 list that's out there now
  • Shadows over Camelot out really started that whole thing
  • it influences things that you wouldn't necessarily think that it did influence that kind of thing
  • it really took the world over for several years
  • it's like too big I mean the shadows of Brimstone which isn't on this list and I would never suggest to be in the Hall of Fame is like its own thing
  • it is such um a force or a presence in the board gaming world that it just has to be in there
  • it's almost like the quintessential board game in in a way
  • it is really the predecessor of all of these board games that have been a big part of the board game geek hobby
  • maybe eventually this is my opinion here I think they should stick to the games for a few years and then you know later on they can start thinking about like putting ryer kitsi in or stefen Feld or Christian Peterson or Corey kesa Cole Worley Richard Borg
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Video q2KGiUTpY3E The Dice Tower Discussion at 4:49 sentiment: positive
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Overall sentiment (raw)
positive
Pros
  • classic cooperative experience
  • tension around trader mechanics
Cons
  • some fiddly rules
  • trader balance can be tricky
Thematic elements
  • medieval fantasy cooperative game with potential trader elements
  • Camelot; Arthurian legend
Comparison games
  • Descent
  • Battlestar Galactica
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
  • Cooperative Game — Players work together to achieve objectives against the game, with potential betrayal elements.
  • cooperative play — Players work together to achieve objectives against the game, with potential betrayal elements.
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • It's going to change the industry whether we like it or not.
  • Time heals wounds. It really does.
  • If we're always traveling, we're not doing content.
  • Everyone is welcome at my cons except jerks.
  • The best way to find out if a game is out of print? Try to buy it.
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Video adKwQ9pCc78 Board Stupid Top List at 8:13 sentiment: positive
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Overall sentiment (raw)
positive
Pros
  • strong thematic feel and memorable components
  • simple core mechanics with deep emergent play
  • great for a group that enjoys social interaction and suspicion
Cons
  • rules can be opaque and setup lengthy
  • group-dependent experience; some sessions can stall
Thematic elements
  • Betrayal within a fellowship, chivalry, questing
  • Arthurian legend-inspired knights quest
  • Semi-cooperative with a hidden traitor (Black Knight) optional
Comparison games
  • Avalon
  • The Resistance
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
  • Hand Management — Players manage cards to undertake quests and advance the board state
  • Narrative Choice — Quest outcomes and events shape the ongoing narrative
  • story-driven quests — Quest outcomes and events shape the ongoing narrative
  • Traitor Game — One or more players may secretly be traitors working against the group
  • traitor mechanic — One or more players may secretly be traitors working against the group
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • the two Hitler and the fascist players are going to try to demolish democracy and take over the power
  • it plays with giving everyone bad information
  • it's a pretty decent social deduction game
  • it's a backstabbing traitor Black Knight
  • it's such a cool theme and it's such a cool game
  • the game is like go kill player three oh damn okay that's the game from now on
  • you need to lean into those secret things with 100% conviction
  • the role playing in the game is essential
  • it's all of these games but just cranked up to 11
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Video hpMw99KFqMw Game Night Picks - Pair Of Dice Paradise Top List at 5:36 sentiment: positive
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Overall sentiment (raw)
positive
Pros
  • Nostalgia and Arthurian theming
  • Solid core mechanics and social interaction
  • Strong art and component quality
Cons
  • Older design may feel clunky to new players
  • Trait or mechanic can be polarizing
Thematic elements
  • Cooperative quests with a hidden traitor element
  • Camelot, Arthurian legend
  • Semi-cooperative, thematic collaborative play with social deduction
Comparison games
  • Mysterium
  • Obscurio
  • Detective Club
  • Carcassonne
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
  • Card management / hand management — Managing cards to progress on quests.
  • Cooperative play with hidden traitor — Players work together on quests while one may secretly oppose them.
  • Quest cards / scenarios — Players undertake quests that require coordination and planning.
  • Role-based / traitor dynamics — Possible traitor reveals and suspicion among players.
  • Traitor Game — Possible traitor reveals and suspicion among players.
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • Power Grid. I'm never getting rid of my copy of Power Grid.
  • I want to play Power Grid.
  • Power Grid to be online somewhere to play.
  • If you see me out in the wild... the answer is yes.
  • Shadows Over Camelot is a great game. I would say yes.
  • We should play Shadows Over Camelot.
  • I love King Arthur and Camelot.
  • Dixit is one of the games that got me into board games.
  • Dixit comes with a lot of these abstract kind of esoterically beautiful artwork cards.
  • It was the first game to have these beautiful abstract artwork cards on it.
  • I really like the game Detective Club.
  • Mysterium, Obscurio, Detective Club were inspired by Dixit.
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Video F1wpHvQMvcc Game Night Picks - Pair Of Dice Paradise Discussion at 13:07 sentiment: positive
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Overall sentiment (raw)
positive
Pros
  • strong thematic flavor
  • great group dynamics when the group is engaged
Cons
  • execution can be fragile if pacing slips
Thematic elements
  • co-op with potential traitor mechanic
  • Arthurian mythic quest
  • story-driven collaborative play with twists
Comparison games
  • Battlestar Galactica
  • Shadows over Camelot
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
  • cooperative play with betrayal — players cooperate but a hidden traitor may undermine the group
  • story-based quests — each quest unfolds with set-up and conditions to win
  • Traitor Game — players cooperate but a hidden traitor may undermine the group
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • I had an amazing time but that's a game that you're super engaged with the players and the game for three to four hours so the time kind of flew
  • the time kind of flew
  • it's funny you say that because I have a built-in clock even if a game is long if there's some element that eventually will wind down and the game will end I love that
  • Scheduling in advance is really the way to go
  • I rarely actually rarely get to play a three plus hour game
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Video vwNcT48viZI The Dice Tower Discussion at 5:03
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Pros
none
Cons
none
Thematic elements
Comparison games
none
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
Mechanics unknown.
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • We added them together. That was the incorrect usage there.
  • Blast some imps. Do it.
  • Tea fatigue is what I'm calling it.
  • We’re going to show you 200 through 101 and talk about them.
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Video WoyWR9aLmd4 The Broken Meeple Top List sentiment: positive
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Overall sentiment (raw)
positive
Pros
  • hidden traitor forced to act
Cons
none
Thematic elements
none
Comparison games
none
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
Mechanics unknown.
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • it's not even a game it's just like a story
  • why is it there this is the game about inventions and this is basically telling me to make cutesy patterns with tiles
  • the bane of my freaking life this horrible game
  • I just want to feel like right I can do this I can do this
  • just design one good game one good game one good mode
  • why can't I tell you
  • they just made them a lot worse
  • it's a red flag to the game is going to suck
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Video vqVopDUaDVI The Cardboard Herald Interview at 31:20 sentiment: positive
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Overall sentiment (raw)
positive
Pros
  • Strong thematic fit with Arthurian legend
  • Solid cooperative experience with tension from traitor
Cons
  • Trust dynamics can be divisive at times
Thematic elements
  • cooperative questing with a hidden traitor
  • Camelot/Arthurian legends
  • mythic, heroic adventure
Comparison games
  • Track 12
  • Five Tribes
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
  • dice-driven quests — Actions resolved through dice and quest cards
  • semi-cooperative with traitor mechanic — Players work together but one may be secretly undermining the group
  • Traitor Game — Players work together but one may be secretly undermining the group
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • gaming is social relations
  • solo variants are house rules
  • my games are my games
  • it's not a competition with myself
  • i'm designing the games i want to play myself
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Video xbibw-ZdCko Board Game Spotlight Review at 9:49 sentiment: positive
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Overall sentiment (raw)
positive
Pros
  • Still fun despite age
  • Plays up to seven players
  • Cool traitor mechanic
  • Pioneering mechanic for its time
Cons
  • Newer games have built upon the concept
  • Better versions exist now
Thematic elements
  • Cooperative fantasy with traitor mechanic
  • King Arthur's Camelot
  • Narrative-driven with hidden roles
Comparison games
none
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
  • cooperative gameplay — Work together against darkness
  • Team vs traitor — Hidden role reveals later in game
  • traitor mechanic — One player may be a traitor trying to sabotage
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • Agricola is one of those games that you just got to have in your collection if you like euro style games
  • Porta is one of my favorite underrated games
  • Broom service I absolutely love food service one of the coolest mechanics in board games 100 percent recommend this game it is a hoot
  • Barron Park is my favorite polyomino Tetris in a board game game
  • Orleans is a top 5 game for me period just one of my favorite games to play ever
  • Power grid this was the game that got me into board gaming y'all
  • Seven wonders this is a modern-day classic
  • Betrayal at house on the hill every game is different
  • King of Tokyo one of those games that you have to have in your collection
  • If you like board games one or percent recommend this game
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Video xsywVOQ-Qlc Our Family Plays Games Interview at 22:15 sentiment: positive
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Overall sentiment (raw)
positive
Pros
  • strong theme integration
  • great table presence
Cons
  • can be lengthy
  • player betrayal adds tension
Thematic elements
  • cooperative questing with traitor suspicion
  • Arthurian Camelot with knights and quests
  • mythic, collaborative with hidden betrayal element
Comparison games
  • Mosaic
  • Ravenshire
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
  • cooperative play with hidden roles — Players cooperate while some may have hidden loyalties.
  • Legacy-style quests — Series of quests drive the campaign arc.
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • Forge of Ravenshire... you're a cute animal black Smith for one to four players
  • Shadows over Camelot is one of the prize possessions I have
  • it's brand new from Amigo games
  • we are actively looking for more Community involvement
  • Kabanga is a really easy card game but can frustrate you especially when people cheat
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Video fam9-aIcWrI Foster the Meeple Top List at 12:15 sentiment: positive
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Overall sentiment (raw)
positive
Pros
  • Early hidden-traitor classic; loved by hobbyists
Cons
  • Bare-bones by modern standards
Thematic elements
  • hidden traitor / cooperative
  • Arthurian legend
Comparison games
  • Null and Nishtig
  • Shakespeare
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
  • hidden traitor / social deduction — Players work together with one or more traitors among them.
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • Rick dawn of Kiev this has been on my Grail list actually for a very long time
  • damn Friedman fries
  • I want all the fastest losses of racing game
  • forbidden stars is one I'm really really excited to add to the collection
  • Balloon Cup to the collection I want the OG Balloon Cup
  • Monster Slaughter ... it's your turn to hunt down and slay those insufferable teenagers
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Video LyVN9RjEPyQ The Cardboard Herald Interview at 2:24 sentiment: mixed
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Overall sentiment (raw)
mixed
Pros
  • engaging cooperative experiences with social deduction spice
  • strong theme integration with modular quests
Cons
  • traitor mechanism can polarize players
  • learning curve due to simultaneous objectives and multiple tracks
Thematic elements
  • knightly virtue, loyalty, and the tension of possible betrayal
  • Arthurian Camelot; a cooperative quest with a grim undertone
  • cooperative yet suspenseful with hidden traitor mechanic
Comparison games
  • The Lord of the Rings (cooperative)
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
  • cooperative quests — Players cooperate to complete quests and keep Camelot safe.
  • hidden traitor / social deduction — Some players secretly oppose the group, adding tension to cooperative play.
  • resource and event management — Managing factions, resources, and event cards to advance or derail the narrative.
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • there's no fun game for everybody there are different approaches and people can pick what they like
  • we didn't have the trouble of getting all the approvals from the movie side
  • read Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck as a kid and suddenly I'm doing games about it
  • the best thing is to give your best every day you don't know how many days you have left
  • you've only one life
  • Steve Jobs changed our world in our times probably like nobody else
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Video jSJZiuTpuOY 3 Minute Board Games Top List at 8:39 sentiment: positive
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Overall sentiment (raw)
positive
Pros
  • beautiful production values for its time
  • iconic for early hidden-traitor design and social deduction vibes
Cons
  • some find it less balanced compared to later hidden-traitor titles
  • less table presence than bigger modern games
Thematic elements
  • hidden traitor mechanics in a cooperative adventure
  • Camelot; knights; traitor intrigue
  • mythic, ensemble quest with a possible traitor among players
Comparison games
  • Battlestar Galactica
  • Nemesis
  • Unfathomable
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
  • easy-to-teach — simple structure that is accessible to new players
  • hidden traitor — one player may secretly undermine the group
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • these bones are there all the foundation is there to make something truly epic
  • i would love to be the designer to do that
  • the core mechanic is this bag management system
  • it's a fantastic solo game
  • the queen's gambit is a rare thing for the time a good star wars game
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Video KZX76gMnoYg BoardGameBollocks Top List at 5:56 sentiment: positive
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Overall sentiment (raw)
positive
Pros
  • strong thematic fit and striking visuals
  • still looks amazing; a classic in the space
Cons
  • thematic setting can be brittle at higher player counts
Thematic elements
  • hidden traitor among knights; cooperative with deceit
  • Arthurian legend; Knights of the Round Table
  • mythic and collaborative with a traitor mechanic
Comparison games
  • Shadows Over Camelot (classic hidden traitor)
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
  • hidden traitor mechanic — you may be the traitor; reveal or conceal actions
  • team actions vs individual misdeeds — balance doing good for the group with possible betrayal
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • This game is skull and roses.
  • This is a game called Forbidden Stars.
  • The first action that you put down is going to be the last action that you activate.
  • It's a fantastic tease and you get this tragic sinking feeling when you know that you [__] the card that you want to play at the end of your turn.
  • This is another hidden trader game called Shadows Over Camelot.
  • you can change allegiance when it suits.
  • you could make the people on your side think that you are aligned with them and then just basically jump ship and tell them to [__] off.
  • If you like being dripfed morphine-like rewards, then Space Base definitely going to be a game for you.
  • This broke new ground with the advent of the crossroads cards that have largely been absent since Gen 7 itself.
  • Risk Legacy is basically Risk, but you will be changing the way the game plays.
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Video oTbHvDb8DHg Adam in Wales - Board Game Design Discussion at 21:46 sentiment: mixed
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Overall sentiment (raw)
mixed
Pros
  • strong thematic fit with Arthurian legend
  • engaging social dynamics and tension
Cons
  • rules can be complex to teach
  • trajectories of betrayal can slow play
  • variability in perceived closeness to other games
Thematic elements
  • cooperative exploration with potential traitor mechanic
  • Arthurian Camelot with a dark, modern interpretation
  • mythic, collaborative with tension
Comparison games
  • Shadows over Brooklyn
  • Shadows over Camelot (original)
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
  • cooperative with traitor element — Players work together to achieve goals, but one or more players may secretly oppose the group.
  • Traitor Game — Players work together to achieve goals, but one or more players may secretly oppose the group.
  • Unique Player Powers — Each player role provides unique abilities affecting decisions and outcomes.
  • Variable player powers — Each player role provides unique abilities affecting decisions and outcomes.
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • Don't worry about it basically you've got an awful lot to gain by showing your game to an awful lot of people.
  • act professionally recognize that this is a business so it's all about relationships building relationships with people trusting people
  • it's a numbers game before you've published your game your game is going to have been seen by…
  • you cannot copyright an idea
  • non-disclosure agreements are pretty much a non-starter in the industry
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Video 26s5i4qeMM8 Adam in Wales - Board Game Design Analysis at 4:15 sentiment: positive
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Overall sentiment (raw)
positive
Pros
  • strong theme and cooperative tension
  • varied expansions and replayability
Cons
  • trauma of betrayal mechanic can be tense for some players
  • older editions can be fiddly to set up
Thematic elements
  • cooperative adventure and betrayal twists
  • Arthurian legend with a cooperative quest structure
  • mythic/co-op narrative
Comparison games
none
Mechanics (from transcript analysis)
  • cooperative play — players work together to complete quests against a common threat
  • hidden trait / suspicion — some players may act as traitors or deal with conflicting objectives
Video topics + discussion points
No key topics recorded for this video.
Quotes (from this video)
  • the publisher retains the right to produce your game in whatever form they want
  • five percent of income from digital editions seems very low to me
  • this clause is an important clause and it's pretty limiting for the designer
  • negotiation should be constructive and respectful from both sides
  • the author shall first submit to the publisher any add-on expansion or new version which he or she intends to develop
  • all derivative works based upon the game are hearing acquired by the publisher
  • it's fairly common that a different designer will work on expansion material
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