Captain is Dead: Lockdown - Discussion

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1:40 places you need skill cards and you're trying to once again crank this up to try and to try and escape so that we already know we like from the original happiness but it's very well I mean it's the same game mechanics yeah just in different setting and with kind of a different deployment of the threads yep so with that being said what you guys think of walk down I liked it yeah it was fun it felt a little more daunting I I mean maybe it was just our hero drawers you know nobody got a commander yeah and your skill was really cool after a certain upgrade exactly so maybe we even get so lucky on the draw of our arrows but we have you good group there for a bit and then it just starts yeah yeah and that's what I was gonna say it did feel more tonk income more difficult because you're dealing with a concealment of which which goes down for six different things one of which is just killing people so that in errantly makes the soldier [ __ ] useless right until you get a certain upgrade and then it's like oh great now I don't know I'm amazing right um so I thought I thought we usually get super easy I thought and we got that upgrade I'm like that's like the murder monster over here and that's what I was thinking and and it was for a

3:11 while we got what two two notches up yeah we did but then that anomaly hit and we were just like okay I could not kill fast enough for that and we weren't getting the science drawers we weren't getting any [ __ ] drawers to to get rid of it so it was like okay well that route to victory it's not having any other drawers um so yeah I think I I'm conflicted because there were so many things that went wrong that I don't know if that's what's making me not so much care for this iteration um okay what do you think well I just didn't like who I got as a person like I know I chose him but dancing sucked ye yeah I thought you don't want to be super useful like slinging cards all over the place and he was for like you know the first two turrets not like I had those three engineer cards in my hand like or ever yeah and I finally got rid of him just because we were like yeah let's just someone yeah then I got no cards in my hand right because the game was [ __ ] way over by then yeah I would agree I think yeah like it was either the ha like at the end sign like I think he just sounds cool but with that forehand limit it's like like dude like I'll just take the actions and just give these cards to someone especially because we have the columns so he's not even useful that way you can't freely give through the column system so it's like I'd rather just give them from anywhere throughout the ship

4:41 for an action versus for free we don't have to be in your location and he couldn't even move to you like he can spend an action but he's definitely move for space for spaces it is only helpful when the teleporter is down which is hard I mean in just in this particular game it was I would agree because the janitor says what may spend actions with unlocking or hacking systems or run racing concealment level or powering up the launch Bay yeah because then it's just like oh great I had those three engineering cards and then Boop there's there's you know Fulton for my actions to knock this up it's almost like like I mentioned in the in the other captain is dead is who you get will wildly dictate how easy or difficult this game is just like pandemic it's the exact same way that it's like you were very helpful I was helpful only after we got an ability other if we didn't have that I would have been useless it was been virtually impossible because he would have had two useless characters and you would have been the only one doing anything I mean the only other way I can think of that one may be working it's like getting hyper aggressive early game and just letting [ __ ] the concealment yeah which it's it's pretty easy to like if you keep this up you know you know where they're gonna come yeah so I mean it's impossible to do the high-risk build if that goes down but even then it's it's not because with her ability you still lower concealment per each alien mmm-hmm so yeah it's like if there were five

6:13 entry that's 50% concealment round it's only one action great but then it's like oh well then I can't do that again because it will lose consume it even though the set to kill doesn't cause us to lose immediately it just means that now they're just gonna kill us instead of capturing us right and then that's that's the other way we can lose is by then the soldier would have been God without the weapons officer and he would have been useless because I don't have we never got the grenades even if you use grenades it's like oh great more concealment going down so I don't know I didn't I didn't really like how you had to have specific things to make specific characters work like I like the idea of having characters like I don't mind having you know oh you need the janitor or you need an admiral or whoever it is I don't mind that so much and it's like I just don't like that you have to have that in addition to upgrades because then it basically tells you like how to play yeah yeah pretty much one thing that really sucked for me is not only was a useful hobo just trotting around the ship I think you guys got the contraband oh right I am I started killing people you're like yeah no you yeah yeah so how do you get tools in this game storeroom door room yeah which we never went to oh yeah we never did yeah it was the only time I wanted to go

7:44 there that's because I got a conceived engineer would have made the launch Bay how much more bottom log shouldn't really yeah you can use engineering and alien language cards interchangeably Oh gotcha but you can't use her skill discounts that way so if you're still discounts always what's their hand limit six six so she still wouldn't be able to do it because seven yeah no no she would have had she gets two discounts for joining which does have to be engineering but then uh cards oh wise and I thought you meant she just couldn't use her in but then she can use her engineering like all over the place yes it can be in handling yeah so yeah so once again I think I think only lunch breaks right I think the the difficulty for this came with we just happen to have just a bad a bad group what do you guys think of the player elimination I think that's interesting yeah I mean it it happens yeah it didn't happen because whenever they said player elimination they said even in the rulebook they're like we have a controversial mechanic and it is very it is a lot of people don't like player elimination because it's like well I'm good to play I think they did the wrong terminology there because it's character elimination soldier dies I'm not done playing right I just get a new character which is which is fine I don't have a problem with that now if it was like Oh your self and they even said they set up this game to where your character shouldn't die until later in the game so you're

9:15 actively trying to write and so you hold on yeah yeah exactly and it's like and they stay even said you can do it a couple ways one you can do it to where yes if your character dies depending on when it happens let's say it was way late in the game then yes I only have the soldier so yes I am done playing now it's up to you to and then if everyone dies it's one way you lose but the other way they said you can play is if it's way early then you can be like oath soldiers gone now I got the weapons officer so you get a little flexibility instead of just being a hard rule of sorry about you um the other thing about it was I don't its thematic but I feel like that the way the aliens and I understand why because it's their ship and they're there doing stuff and they're gonna keep taking us back to the infirmary and they're gonna be you know they're gonna have patrols and that's concealments gonna go down then eventually gonna kill us I get all that and this was like needlessly complicated like that's that was the biggest thing was a different alien time hmm yeah almost it was like I don't know I see its I think it's just cuz it's so different from the other one they don't want aliens just there they teleport onto your ship and they're just there that's all this is there grunts yeah I guess they wanted to communicate more that we're on their turf yeah there's gonna be rank and file yep yep um with different effects yeah it would played

10:46 more into it if you didn't just murder them all exact go we would have felt it a little more than right so maybe maybe that's what it was cuz I didn't really care about what they were doing because I just ran and just guns blue but what color are you how many colors yeah yep just kill them all we just felt really cool because I get I would get to wipe a board um and yeah yeah that might have been the case I think let's see improvement plans oh hey remember honeypot linguist - Rolla doesn't have two alien languages you get the discount as a free agent you're not drawing alert this turn is there anything about there's nothing about the launch the launch pad so he's like in the in the base game you have the automatic you know hey you fixed it screams in space remove up to three house from any location or locations in the prison as a free action without lowering the concealment um what I will say and this was kind of its kind of controversial to what I was saying earlier but I like how they kind of because in the in the other you know captain is dead the upgrades were they were nice but they were almost you know out of the way you had to go out of the way to get them but if you did get them then they're great this one is least with my character they made us do some upgrades instead of the other one because there's not there's not a lot of anomalies in this one and there's a bunch and the other one where it's like oh we need to get rid of these mm-hmm

12:17 nah we're kind of shitty yeah honey pots are nice well they're not super terrible yeah damn that spawner one was the one that dropped - yeah it was it was a bad time I mean it was really only one because we never went to the armory mmm it was just the mess hall which dictates based off your character and who you have yeah I think do you think you would've had a better time if you weren't the inside I think yeah because I mean like that and that greatly affects the game is if you have a useless character than you're a useless person yeah nobody wants to play a game like that right like I don't want to sit down and do nothing for a [ __ ] hour what I did yeah so I mean you know after a while you just kind of lose steam and you're like yeah because she didn't want uh well the hologram said they're really good except he only moved to be a teleporter and I was very scared as I told said that was like the game's called lockdown yeah so I'm affected by and can't kill hostile aliens except via the security station so the armory would have been used probably a lot more he could not be injured and but if the teleporter or the computers are locked he is returned to and confined in the security tower so do you think yes that you would have probably also been useless yeah I mean I think I love the white the janitor is by far the best one he's the underdog he's uh he's the best one the Hat yeah and especially because it's how many I mean the computers in the teleporter got walked down a couple times so he would have been inactive that much but he gets

13:49 three inherent skills yeah engineering tactical and psionic an old eight cards oh [ __ ] so he's just really good utility but has some limits yeah so he's least limited and if he's limited I mean it just it does hurt when he's down like he wouldn't go down that much but hurt a lot yeah cuz we probably because you'd have to basically try to bring me back up I think you'd have to waste time well no you're still locked in the security tower if think that was that the computers are down computers and teleporter are locked and she has returned to and confined to the security won't have to be locked just won this one by one or the other gets locked that she gets what she can unlock the computer not easily enough herself no no because if there's a if there are if there well I guess if there are aliens in the security tower the hologram cannot kill aliens right put them and you can't do anything else if there's an alien in there yeah I mean it's a heavy pro but with heavy comms yeah as long as he is a double-edged sword yeah um the inside I'll never give him another cheap yeah like I I don't really care for the hack like I mean I guess it's if you really really need to unlock something but everything to unlock one that doesn't cause concealment to go down and then the it but it's just an action in a while but you need those wilds for the

15:20 launch Bay mm-hmm so or every literally everything else yeah yeah I like how there are wilds in here though I think that drastically makes it at least somewhat easier because otherwise because everything does start locked with beginning of the game automatically mmm so I love them Devon would you would you would you like about this game well I mean it it takes you know kind of techniques from the previous game and it just kind of flips them all around a little bit yeah pretty well you're more a thing yeah and you're more aware of where you're going you're like I can't end here because then they'll just catch me and then take me back right it didn't feel like it felt more like a constant flow because the alerts in the first game were terrible like there were some that were like oh man yeah others were like oh [ __ ] yeah it's like oh that's an 80% shield hit right and then this one was like they're all kind of okay that kind of sucks that kind of sucks there was like one you know the spawner yeah that really really rekt oh [ __ ] otherwise they were pretty pretty a very steady curve yeah until you get to level three right I'm like alright yeah it's over I mean I mean I would agree with that yeah that mean the mob mechanic was interesting you know just like you had to be really cautious over you know the strategy you're taking um you know vary depending on the systems that you do have up because you kind of build for you know

16:51 characters right so I will say I do like the fact that it's if you do kill everyone then yes this goes up I like that a lot it's a double-edged sword once again because then you have to draw another alert which is most likely gonna be bring people because that's all they all that's all the alerts really were we're just bringing in more people a if it's almost it's almost kind of like a tower defense in a way and then whereas in the previous one it was just shield hits or aliens did show up or ships I would show up that you had to use missiles to blow off by the wise you we're gonna get more fun along with anomalies it does seem the of the kitten of original captains that was more variety this one was more honed into its theming which I will say it still was very thematic right both of them are very thematic in their own right which is really good for the the art style and the kind of just abstract nature of the game um I mean I'd say yeah I like the original I did too yeah I was I like the original better in this one because it's just I mean if you like your join you'll like this one the episodic nature I think they were just targeting the audience they'd already created yeah I don't think they're trying to get any new people with this I just want to put out more product yeah that works what was it slightly if I would agree I will say I mean I am glad that they at least if they are doing the episode like nature that they did change the way like it didn't like make you play completely different they were like oh here's new actions and all I know it's all if you play the original you know how to play

18:23 this one but they did it they twist of it and I like that because you can get that you can own this one and the original and not feel like you're owning the same game especially when their third one comes out if you want to do a whole if you're a huge captain of dead fan you just want to do a huge episodic thing you could and you I don't think you would get bored from it hmm no okay so keeps you on edge until still keeps you thinking yeah yeah which it I feel like this one actually was almost more cooperative mmm like I felt like you had to be more cooperative and your actions and make up for the lack of a third person know if it was there anything that you liked no right yeah oh yeah I mean I think you're right about the different level of cooperation because you're on different terms communicate more because we're working with a language that we don't know technically I was just reading some of these contrabands the contraband is a neat kind of mechanic - yeah I'd like one of them is unknown injection if any aliens into your location knock them out for the rest of the game lay them on their side you can kill the wall knocked out they will not perform hostile alien actions so you can just have them all of this come in and just like inject them in your like right there piled up not doing anything but they're there so yeah this wasn't interesting kind of

19:55 twisted infinite or just one-time use they're all one-time you all the contrivance one-time use these are interesting I like the veteran how it's like if you succeeded you know in the first game you get a veteran ability yeah yeah that woulda really sucked if I didn't have celebrity because I have been knocked out in the infirmary doing nothing it didn't doesn't just say if you get that no matter what he can start with it you can choose to start with slippery and why would and what you in it what you initially had was not as good you know cuz I read them both and I'm like slippery without a doubt just want to play home and say oh yeah this is the one that love what you can start on that difficulty which is why bother which I mean you just need to get I don't honestly see any way of beating this type Ellenton this type of nasty item Ellis unless once again seven people I think that's it with both of them you need seven people to play on insane maybe like maybe it's like okay if you're playing with one person you do why bother to people is pointless three four five six never mind that wouldn't make any sense yeah I would say probably hardcore than saying you need seven people better in an expert six yeah then you have access to everyone special abilities yes yeah because you do the individual colors for a person but oh yeah so what you like about yeah I mean I mean I think it's just I like to wait that they just keep

21:26 continuing it and kind of make it their own my little series yeah in a way but oh you guys pretty much covered everything like I don't I don't disagree and come with with anything that you said like it's not I just I just didn't have fun with the enzyme whatever comes down to that's I didn't like that's fair um all right scale one to ten okay we'll have you start one sorry guys no I'll go keep it a seven a seven yeah would you would you could play out the first one the seven okay I'll reseed rule all right I figured you would uh giving this a lower rating no I won't because I know I won't have an ensign either because of my don't let him ruin my life um no I was angry during the game so I don't want to be increase very good review I'll give it some leeway um I'll still keep it at a seven because I want to play it again I don't want to play his demons I mean statistically you pretty shouldn't get white again you did yeah Devon where you at oh I think I'd be the last one you gave that one yeah you and I gave the original I'm not yeah I mean I mean the original just because it was I mean the fact that this one's kind of recycle techniques see what it's like it's more you know it's like hey you like you like bread and butter you like this you know it's the same anymore bread butter well the fact that it's just someone got a

22:57 rate at home now but at the same times so fun mmm this or my bad - I mean yeah I got a seven I play it again like it'd be cool like you know if they keep making episodes like a gain I haven't won be too bad cuz you're keeping the same thing with slight twist yeah that wouldn't be too bad and you have unless you like alright Game one well the ship blew ups every play yep no you [ __ ] that right uh mainly uh where I'm at unlesss is you're right it's still the same game which is you would think is another bad thing but I will say that I I like the excitement of being attacked and having to survive I like the theming of the first one more than I like sneaking around the ship and come and trying to unlock things while I still like that it's it's different and I would and I'm going to keep it I'm gonna keep this one just like the original because ya would be fun to do a game night of like all captain is dead it would be it'd be interesting yeah for some reason I am just on a 7-7 with this one and your nose more playthroughs and it's just like oh hey we got some we get the dream team now so because I'm curious as to what if if the Admiral is if they're just rehash so the battle plans you can do improvised plans which aren't as good we gotta work with what we're good let's

24:27 see so Admiral may draw improvise plans from any location yet draw to you choose one oh you get to random veteran abilities instead of 1 mm and sympathizer oh so yeah you're you're uh you're an alien I don't you're a sympathizer oh it's you

24:46 while yeah - one that is unaffected by hostile aliens cannot kill hostile alien starts the game in the mess hall may not use feather and abilities six-six but it's a - wilds I'm pretty great yeah and you know the scholars science officer in cyborg unaffected by anomalies oh I guess that would have been affected by honey pods yeah I just wish to kind of change these up a little bit more instead of literally being the exact same character yeah diplomatic counselor yeah they're all the tactical officers oh I wasn't the original after raising the consumer level she may draw a rain oh yeah on the wife would be on the what I was expecting I was like well the janitor was exactly that well not exactly but yeah I'm so yeah may look at the top card of any deck as a free action on her turn as long as she is in the room with the system that controls that deck so I guess they give them kind of secondary abilities I wouldn't expect them to change too much because Hitler there's the same carry yeah automatically yeah it's the characters um with your feather in a bit oh you were Rhys you were researcher researching upgrades and the nominees cost you one less science you that was one you had before slippery witch and eyesight would have been great but but damn that I does not get caught something exactly oh yeah those after a swarm so those are thoughts on the captain is dead lockdown less than what you think of the game in the comments

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