Top 10 Games for Six Players

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0:54 Good afternoon everybody. Welcome to the Dice Tower. I'm Tom Vassel.

0:56 I'm Joey Evans.

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2:22 All right, top 10 games that start with a no that start with the letter whatever start with six players.

2:28 My list is going to be very invalid.

2:30 Whatever letter you say.

2:31 Oh, what I have Yeah, that's true.

2:33 Now, we're doing games that are for six players. So, a couple caveats here.

2:38 Caveats.

2:38 Well, for Yeah. For specifically for me,

2:41 the

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2:44 Got it. I I'm really struggling to stay on point here today, folks. I I I'll put up the window from the back seat.

2:53 Here I go. Um, six player games. So, first of all, in this list specifically,

2:59 I didn't put in straight party games like Taboo and Boulder Dash because

3:03 correct

3:03 when there's a big group of players, it's easy to do party games. So, that's kind of a separate list. There are games on my list that are partyesque and people say that's actually a party game. But, you know what I mean? The ones you go to Toys R Us and buy in. I'm sorry.

3:16 Sorry. what you go to in Walmart and buy or target or whatever.

3:21 Uh anyway,

3:23 the other thing is for me specifically since I will likely and you guys will probably be in another numbered list. I will not ever repeat a game from list to list. Correct. From all the numbers.

3:33 I promise you I will try to not repeat games.

3:36 So number all

3:40 like f like six like if it's on the six player it's not also going to be on the five.

3:43 Oh, got it. Got it. So I did that specifically. I pick games that if I have six players, these are the games I consider. I think these games are great with six. And in fact, I like them a ton with six. The only thing I might

3:55 do is I might play them with seven, but we're not going to ever do a seven player list because it would be three games or so.

4:00 I agree.

4:01 Also, I would be like,

4:03 we got seven players, four player game, three-player game. So easy play at seven. I agree. Just kidding. Um,

4:09 a couple of mine do. Yeah,

4:10 one of mine, there's only one on my list, maybe two. two two on my list that I'd be like I'd play those at seven.

4:15 Sure.

4:16 That's

4:16 and that's because they go to seven.

4:18 I will say on mine I did not do party games even party adjacent. I also did

4:22 I definitely did party adjacent.

4:23 I did not do social deduction. I did not I did not do rolling rides cuz I could do top 10 six player rolling rides.

4:30 I have a rolling right on there but I only put one. I limited myself to one cuz I was like I think that it's

4:34 I also did it the correct way that Camila did which is I picked one cuz it's Cass. If we're canceling rolling right WHERE ARE WE? WHERE ARE WE AS A NATION? IT'S NOT A NATION I want to be

4:43 enough rolling rights. I can name each of your rolling rights right now.

4:46 What? Which ones?

4:47 You know, you said you don't party at Jason. You are lying. Cuz I know one of the games you put in your list and I would definitely consider that party at Jason. Here's the thing. Did you look at my stuff?

4:54 No, but I I know what you like

4:56 and I know what you dislike.

4:58 I'm with you though. I didn't put social deduction cuz I feel like that's six is way too specific of a number. It can be any like under 20. You know what I mean? Um, so I didn't do social deduction. And then I did one. It's party adjacent, but more than party adjacent, I'm going to say it's more like activity adjacent. Like it's

5:14 it's one that I think you'll agree with me because I know you like it, but I think I will still get crap for it.

5:19 Okay.

5:19 Who?

5:21 Yeah.

5:21 Whoever said that seat what she said, but more mild. All right, let's get started. Number 10. My number 10 is an oldie and a goodie and one that I still get excited to play. Uh, it's King of Tokyo. I personally prefer the dark edition because I think that the artwork in that is just so striking and awesome. Um, but I I love King of Tokyo. I think it goes really well with the six players because it really increases the tension of are they going to stay in the city? Are they not? Are they going to come out? um and less chance that it's going to go all the way around the table and you still be in the middle or in in the actual city and still be alive,

6:09 you know. So, I think that this really shines at these higher player counts.

6:13 I I this is did not make my list, but it's very very good. It's very close. It was

6:19 okay.

6:20 Made my list last time we did this. I will say this without spoiling at all.

6:25 We have seen the new

6:27 Godzilla King of Tokyo.

6:28 I've not No, I didn't. I wasn't didn't see it yet. There's a tear in my eye.

6:32 And it's very good.

6:34 So, you will like it. If you like King of Tokyo, you will very much like it.

6:37 You saw it, right?

6:38 I saw it.

6:39 Am I the only one that didn't?

6:41 I didn't know you like I didn't I hadn't seen your list till today, so I didn't I didn't know you were a King of Tokyo fan.

6:46 Spoilers. He doesn't watch my top 100

6:47 cuz you steal stuff.

6:48 That is correct.

6:50 Actually, I do watch your top. I just don't memorize all six people's top 100.

6:54 He doesn't memorize my top 100.

6:56 That is correct.

6:57 My number 10 is

6:58 Good choice. Good choice. GOOD WAY TO START OUT. KEEP THIS GOING. OH, it's going. It's going. This one is not on either of your list, but I think you both like this game. If you haven't, you would. It's a press your luck game. And it's a small box. And it is loot and run.

7:13 Party adjacent.

7:14 I It's not party adjacent. That's not I mean, it's such an easy rule set.

7:20 I have played this.

7:20 That's a tiny box.

7:21 Loot, run, or awaken. and you just keep flipping those cards, put them in front of you, and you have to have idols that cancel out the monsters, and you move up that track. It's a really fun game, and it does play six players fairly quickly. And the more people that play this, the more enjoyable it is because you get to awaken certain people, and as more people are playing, pushing your luck becomes harder because there's that far in between turns. So, this one, tell you what, this one has survived so many coals in our collection. It is still Yeah, it's still there. It did not survive my first call. I mean, I like it fine, but there's other push your luck games I like better.

7:57 There are no other push your luck games for six people that I like. Actually,

8:01 I could tell you one that's

8:02 absolutely is one

8:03 that's probably going to be on someone's list right now.

8:05 I may have forgotten.

8:06 It might be on someone's list.

8:07 All right. Well, we'll we'll bring this back up then in a scornful way. Fine. It is Loot Run and it is great.

8:14 All right. Let's bring out the fire.

8:16 Here it is.

8:17 This game is a good game despite what everyone here on the panel may or may not think.

8:21 Oh, I hate it. One bad experience does not ruin a good game. My number 10 is Quadas or Zuvatus, I guess I should say. Zuva.

8:30 Why would you say Quobis?

8:31 I don't know what because that was originally called that.

8:33 Oh, was it? Okay, I didn't know that. I've not played this, so I have no opinion. I think it looks terrible, but

8:39 negotiation games make for great six player games. They really do. And I think this one shines at six players. It is very,

8:47 it's one of those games you're just going to sit there and say, I would like to move up. I'll take you with me and go back and forth and a very strong negotiator will steamroll over the weak willed and weak-minded and weak of heart. A lot of weakness.

9:00 This is not a game. This is an awkward conversation.

9:03 Yeah. I feel like I would be a terrible to play this with.

9:07 I feel like I would definitely be

9:09 You know who's terrible to play this with?

9:10 Mike.

9:10 Mike Delisio. Mike is Yes.

9:12 Cuz he rips his mask off and you see the the the girl from The Exorcist there suddenly and she's like, "Work with me or I'll kill you and you're like, "Oh, yes. I'm sorry." Uh, excellent game, though. I like it a lot. It's definitely not for everyone, but I enjoy it. Zuvatus.

9:40 Number nine is the one that I was saying is uh activity adjacent because there is no strategy in this game. It is what it is. The game plays you as much as you play it. But man, do I love it. This is Grindhouse.

9:54 This play six.

9:55 YES.

9:56 I DID NOT KNOW I WAS PLAYING SIX. Hold on.

9:59 Andrew, you're getting an email. My list is about to change.

10:01 OH, GRIND HOUSE IS SO GOOD.

10:03 WHAT IS HAPPENING? Did that lady just lose an arm?

10:05 Yeah.

10:05 Yes, it happens in the grind house, Tom.

10:07 Oh, is it a video? Wait till she turns over. Oh, yeah. She loses an arm

10:10 and then she might lose a leg.

10:12 And then she could get shot in the head

10:14 or maybe lose her torso. But then the thing is there's no player elimination in this. It's not like King of Tokyo.

10:19 It's body part

10:20 because you become a ghost and then at a with go as a ghost you have like your own objective in order to win.

10:26 I have not played this.

10:26 And your objective could be to lose all your limbs by the time you get to the end.

10:29 Is it a real game?

10:30 No. Not if you Oh, if you're Okay. Yes. Not if you're a ghost. Yeah. As a ghost. Yes. It's a real game. I mean activity. I mean kind of a game.

10:37 So it's really I mean it's just really light is what you're saying.

10:39 It's very light. Like I mean, so you have a card in the middle and you're going to turn it over and it's going to be some sort of story and it's going to be, you know, you're in this house and somebody has to volunteer. Who's going to volunteer? Okay, fine. I'll do it. I'll volunteer. And then all right, whoever volunteered rolls a dieice, whatever, you know, if it's one to three, this happens. If it's four to six, this happens. Or it might be everybody has to try to escape this room full of sharks. So roll the dice three times to swim across the room. And if you roll a four, you lose a limb each time. Something like that. And I don't know if I love all of that,

11:07 but it's really fun because you each have your own persona and personal objectives. So, you're you have some additional limitations or boons and different items that get played around. It is

11:17 We played this live Halloween. I would not recommend it live.

11:20 If someone could go through the cards,

11:22 wait, what's it rate it?

11:25 Do they rate games?

11:26 80s rating. You know what I mean?

11:27 Four plus.

11:28 What would What would you rate it?

11:30 I'd put it there. There's some things in

11:31 I'm not asking you cuz I know what

11:33 No, I I'd say it's there's some things in it that are like sensitive. It's not like language or anything, but some things that might be offensive. There's cards that if we were going to play a live number to call a movie rating like PG or PG-13.

11:42 Yeah, like a movie. Is it PG-13 or is it R.

11:44 No, it's not R.

11:45 Oh, not not 80s R.

11:47 I would let my kid see this, but he's also seen John Wick, so

11:50 that's true.

11:50 You know, it's not really

11:51 mine.

11:52 Yeah.

11:52 Okay. Your should not be proud of your kid just from the doorway.

11:57 Yeah.

11:58 All right.

11:58 Yeah. So, anyway, love this game. from Grind House.

12:01 God, did not know that was six.

12:02 SO GOOD.

12:03 GOOD GAME.

12:03 OH, when you play six, you get an extra door. So good. More randomness.

12:07 All right.

12:08 You haven't sold me actually. I might try it.

12:10 I think you would like it. You'd like the story thing. Yeah, you'd like the story driven. You'd like it. All right. My number nine is one that I played um actually with probably a hundred people and so it plays a lot. And it's not a roller. I played this at AEG's big game night, but this is Tiny Towns.

12:26 Tiny Town. is definitely a roll and write with a board. You know this, right? You don't write anything in this.

12:33 I understand that. But it is in the same category. Counts.

12:37 Flip. It's a flip in place.

12:38 I know it counts as do roll and right. All right. This one I love because you can play as many. It's a great puzzle like logic puzzle in a small box. I mean almost unlimited players if you have several copies or whatever. And there's also this town hall rules. I don't know if you play those where um you get I think the use the cards instead of somebody calling it and every third turn you get to choose your own resource. So it's a really I enjoy doing that at six and more.

13:02 You get to choose your own resource.

13:03 Yeah, every third turn you get to choose your own resource. Otherwise it's really luck.

13:07 Well that's why that was is that a rule they made up for the big games

13:10 because in the box I don't remember that being

13:12 No, no, it's been added later. I think it's an official rule now. I don't know but they did play official variants or something.

13:17 Yeah, maybe they did that at um Gen Con. But it's nice because otherwise it is fully luck on what flips over. This one every third one you get.

13:24 I agree. I would not like it.

13:26 I like it where you because the normal game you everyone chooses. That's why I wouldn't want to play it with six because I think it's better the lower player count.

13:33 This one though. I mean that does help only with the town hall rules where they call it. I think it it kind of alleviates that.

13:39 So anyway, this is great. I love tiny towns. Again, it's fun.

13:42 This entire list will be Joey from Big Game Night.

13:45 That's it. Yes.

13:46 All right. And my number seven is the or number nine, sorry, is the highest game on anyone's list. I mean highest. It's the sorry heaviest game I meant on probably anyone's list. This is a very heavy game, but it is also a very rewarding game. This is Cadurial Confluence.

14:02 Really?

14:03 Now, this actually goes to seven,

14:05 but there's one faction I don't like, so it's on my six player game list. Um cuz one faction attacks other player. I don't like it. This is a trading game. is another negotiation. You'll see a lot of that on my list. This is a game in which you have these cards in front of you and you can like say that one lets you turn two of something into a yellow cube and it's they're all like euro things. I can turn this into that. The thing is you can never use your own cards.

14:29 You have to use someone else's cards.

14:32 So you have to trade like I'll let you use my card if you let me use that card. I'll give you these resources if you let me use your cards. So there's a you walk around a table. Everyone has special abilities. Like one person has wild cubes that can be used as any color. That's amazing. but they can't really use them. They can trade them away. So, they have a lot of power. Yeah. It's very, very interactive. It's a long game. We're talking three plus hours. Um, but I think

14:56 it's a such a unique experience and it's really fun.

14:58 Yeah.

14:59 Um, they also

15:00 made a bunch of other um they they made us like a each faction now is that they had a expansion where they each have their own whole new power. That's kind of crazy. It is a heavy rules teach I think comparatively and it's weird to understand how it plays but if you like it and you play it and you have the time

15:18 cedarial confluence

15:19 is it one that's better is it a rough first play for people that don't know how to play or can they get it pretty quick and jump in?

15:26 I think you could cuz people would help you out and be like hey you can do this and that but also this is one of those games the very first time I played this I played it at three and I was like this game kind of sucks but I but I feel like it would be better with more

15:37 because with three there wasn't enough trading. It's so much better. The full six experience is one of my favorite game experiences I've had.

15:43 Let me try this one.

15:44 Okay.

15:58 All right. So, I said I don't have any social deduction games. That was a bluff. No, it um

16:04 That's a full lie. It's not a bluff. Am I kidding? Did you clean your room? No, I was bluffing it.

16:12 No, this one has a uh a hidden traitor in it. And this is going to be Obscurio. Uh this one replaced Mysterium for me because I think what

16:21 this is straight up a ded social deduction game. What are you talking about?

16:25 Yeah, but it's but it's not I guess when I say like a social deduction, it's the win condition is not based on figuring out who that person is. You know, that's kind of the the distinction I make. Um, yeah. But in this one, you are trying to get out of this great library here. And there's one person who's playing as the uh the the book, the grimoire, who is trying to give you hints and pointing out different hints on which door is safe to go through, things like that. But somebody is actually playing as an evil person trying to keep you in there. And so they're leading astray with the with the clues and that kind of stuff. So very similar vein of Mysterium, but I like Obscurio better. I think having that hidden trader adds a little bit of of tension to it and a it doesn't all come down to that great finale like in Mysterium, you know, that the game has um a better progression, I think. So, I really think it works better at these higher player counts pushing up into six or not pushing into six at six because you have one player who's not playing.

17:20 So, it really is five and of those five you're trying to to get out safely and deduce who the trader is. And I think that that just works better with more people at the table.

17:28 I think it is. We're playing Mysterium at our Tuesday night game group. I think I saw that. Mysterium, not Obscurio.

17:33 I would still absolutely play Mysterium. I want to be clear. I love Mysterium still as well, but of the two, this is the one I tend to lean towards.

17:40 Really?

17:40 It's weird because this is the one that's kind of Well, it's more obscure, but I mean, no, but really it is. I haven't heard people don't talk about this one as much,

17:49 right? I think this one didn't break into mass market where Mysterium did.

17:55 I know what you mean, but yes. I mean in the same way like Betrayal of House on the Hill like I know people that usually

18:00 spoiler

18:00 they had those two games.

18:03 Joy's number eight. My number eight of Zurio

18:06 maybe.

18:07 All right. It is not Betrayal help. This one is a It gives you a good be movie feel. This one I don't think anyone I'm pretty sure any of you have played, but it is a smaller indie game, but it's there's three versions. The version I picked for here I think is Roswell 51. Um this is a fantastic shuffling horror. There are three in this series. It's Roswell 51 as well as Pittsburgh 68 which are zombies and then Inmouth 32. The whole thing on this is one person's the director, one versus all. Everybody else is are actors in the movie. And you go through and it's not player elimination. As you get beat, you then become you go on the director's side. And the whole thing is this is so sematic because at the beginning you're you're you're against one or two hordes of zombies. Then you start turning and towards the end it's then all versus one and there's one person just trying to survive until the end of the movie and it's great. You play on like a drive-in movie screen. So everything happens like an old school type of movie and you're just trying to survive to the last act.

19:04 And last time I plays with with my wife. I think she's a waitress. She ends up being a waitress. She's stuck in a cellar. Everyone's outside trying to get the hit points down to break in and the movie ends. So she has survived the only one and the director finally has everyone on site. This is a great movie. Sorry, a great game. But it's it's fantastic. This is

19:23 I gota I gotta be honest here. I

19:25 You You could say it's a fun game. You say it's a great game. I've never heard anyone say that about

19:30 No, it is very This guy is not He just sells it himself. He's that Jim Can. He has a booth.

19:35 Pittsburgh 6. What's it

19:37 68 so bad that one?

19:39 It does. That one is That's why I put this one on here. I haven't played the third one, the Cthulu one. Yeah, that's Cthulhu with all that. So, I'm intrigued by this, Joey.

19:49 Yes, I think you'd like it. They also have like a Santa Claus and the Martians kind of expansion.

19:52 Santa Claus versus The Martians.

19:54 Yes.

19:54 Okay. Yeah, that was the right answer.

19:56 Okay. Yes. Yes. So, anyway, this is

20:00 this is great. This It's a great be movie. I I enjoy the feel of this. It's great about cinematic moments that you created.

20:05 Oh, I like this.

20:06 It's good.

20:06 I like it.

20:07 Roswell 51.

20:08 All right. My number What are we on? Eight.

20:11 We are eight indeed.

20:13 Yes. I think I wrote this game down. I don't remember because I was waffling between some games, but this one is Celestia, which is a No, IT'S ZENO. I LIED. WENDY, you could have put it up faster. I I knew I was I was on Wendy.

20:29 I knew I was iffy on this one. Okay, Zeno. You're right. I changed that at the last second. Zeno is a fantastic game in which you put out two things like that and I say the the one with the white dot is correct and the one with the black dot is incorrect. What does that mean? Does that mean every piece in the thing has to be red? Is that the rule? Or is the rule no yellow? Or is the whatever? And you make a collection of these things and then I tell you yes or no. It's very logic oriented. I just played this on the cruise with some people

20:58 and just had a blast doing it. You make up these simple rules and people will make a collection and I go that is correct or that is incorrect. And finally somebody will be able to guess the rule. This is

21:06 And you have to use really easy rules because the game can be ruined by someone saying, "Well, there has to be one yellow piece and it's pointing towards wherever the dog is in the room right now."

21:15 Oh, they go too. Yeah.

21:17 And that's it's almost impossible. You would think that having only yellow pieces is too easy of a rule. It's not

21:23 interesting.

21:23 So, I really enjoy this game. You can play this game with the pyramids. The Looney The Luna Labs pyramids.

21:33 Oh, yeah. I don't Yeah. I just think that's I've never played that but I see them everywhere like

21:37 Yeah. Yeah. Well, they made a lot of games to play with them. Some are okay, some are good. This is the best one, but they also made it in a box itself. Uh very good logic style game. Very, very fun. Zeno.

21:59 Um there was pyramids, wedges, and then rectangular prisms. So there's three shapes, three colors.

22:06 Okay, got it.

22:06 The original one had py all pyramids and they were three sizes, but that's trickier to know what size each pyramid is.

22:11 Okay, cuz in the video there, it looked like they were all cubes and so I was trying No, there are a whole lot more combinations. Okay, but we digress.

22:18 My number seven is Seven Wonders Architects. This

22:21 Did you make it seven on purpose? I didn't I mean I did of course.

22:27 Yeah,

22:27 this was on my short list. This was a good one.

22:30 I think this really works great at seven at seven players um at six players because everyone is simultaneously drafting from the two sides, but it has a high enough player count at six that you really have to keep an eye on everything that's happening at the table. the smaller player counts you really it it's not too easy almost but it's such a small little group you can easily say like oh no I can hold off on building my architect over here and maybe go into this uh science strategy instead because you can see everything so easily it's it's in the the higher player count at seven it really challenges you to make sure you're watching what's happening on the other side of the table because if they're really pushing their architect building the game can like you know swipe out from under you and be done you know so I really really appreciate this at that higher player count. Um,

23:16 this really is an amazing gateway introductory game. You people over who don't play almost any games, they can easily get this one. It's such a good game.

23:25 Yeah. Yeah. I really, really, really enjoy it. So, that's going to be Seven Wonders Architects.

23:29 I'm assuming it's a crossover since Joey just sat there and looked at it.

23:32 I haven't played it.

23:33 Oh, really? Really?

23:34 Really?

23:35 I mean,

23:36 you should play the the garbage on your list and you're not playing that.

23:39 I know. My at number seven is a crossover

23:44 and it is

23:47 Seven Wonders Architects.

23:50 What a liar. I if he if he doesn't say anything then it's on his list.

23:55 Now you put it on because of Seven.

23:56 No, I just find out it was there and I'm like this worked out. I knew it before though. I was like I'm not moving it now. So it's again like every everything Camila said, but also it comes out so easy. those trades it comes out and

24:09 it's got just enough asymmetry.

24:11 They all you have to play each one a little bit different and I just it flows really barely.

24:17 Right. Right. Right. It's not overly complicated

24:20 enough where when somebody else builds their architect you're like you got what? How the heck four points for that? Are you kidding? I only get one. You're like yeah but I have this military strength which is pretty cool. You know what I mean? Like it's just enough to make you feel good.

24:32 I agree. And it's just this has for me replay seven wonders, but um Architects is just fantastic. Everything about this game I love. I was surprised to find out it plays up to seven, you know, because it's just such a good game. And you're right, it's kind of more of a gateway, I think, but anyone can jump into this.

24:48 So, yeah, someone's architects.

24:50 All right, my seven's my roll and right. Um

24:52 Okay.

24:53 Is it a roll right hand?

24:54 It's a flip and right.

24:56 Okay. Well, there's a lot of So, there's a lot of rolling rights/flip and rights I like and some work good in the whole there's 800 people can play them type situation. Um, but some even though they're they're more complex, a lot of people can play them. A good one would be uh what's the one where you have houses on the street. Um,

25:12 welcome to

25:12 Welcome to

25:14 I think I like the welcome to series at four. I just kind of do. I think that works better for that.

25:19 This one is a flip right push your luck. And I know it's luck because it's in the name super mega lucky.

25:24 This was on this is my 11. Yes. Oh, this is interesting. Okay,

25:27 this is the only one I would have put on.

25:28 So, the the one that this beats out a little bit is silver and gold, which I love a lot,

25:33 but this one you are flipping numbers and crossing them off on your little bingo cards and trying to form uh rows and columns.

25:41 If you know someone who likes bingo at all, this is a way to get them to play a game like this. It it it's such a fun

25:48 game. It's pretty cheap to buy. Um, and it's easy to play and it's just fun to cross off those numbers and you sit there and go, hm, should I take this one with

25:56 there's really almost no strategy to it.

25:58 There's a mitigation. You got lightning bolts. You can go down

26:01 and you can pick what things you It's there's a lot of fun in this one and I just think it works really well with six because it's simultaneous.

26:08 I just like a lot. I love that cover, too. I love the name Super Mega Lucky Box.

26:11 There's so much tension when you're trying to pick the new card, too, and you complete a card, you're like, "Woohoo!" And then you're like, "Oh, no. I have to pick a new one." But what is what? Like that's like the most tense moment of the game for me. Agree.

26:20 It's like

26:21 this is also something I'll do a top 10 list of like games where when I got them to how much I enjoyed it my where I was like

26:29 fine we'll play this game. That's how I felt when I first saw it. It's called Super Mega Lucky Box. I'm like

26:34 anyway let's try it out. Oh, it's actually fun.

26:37 That's a fun journey.

26:38 Good. That's my number seven. Number six for me is I think the heaviest game on my list I would say, but I still wouldn't call it heavy. It's it's just solid medium. This is going to be Planet Unknown. I think because of the simultaneous selection of the polyominos in the middle, everyone is playing at the same time, but it also puts a lot of pressure on those uh planet goals, those those common goals that you're going for. So having the the more players really brings that tension u and really makes you think about that lazy Susan. In the lower player counts, you're really just thinking, what do I want? But I do find myself looking a little bit more around the table when I'm playing at six players to see what else am I giving him.

27:32 What do I want? And I don't want you to have that,

27:34 right? What is best for me and what's second best for me. And if what's second best for me

27:38 hurts you more than maybe, you know, like I I do consider it a little bit more because those again those goals become so much more hot points. I feel like when you play at the higher player count, so Planet I think really does well at at six players.

27:51 There's very few polyomino games that do well in that player count. So this is a good one.

27:55 And very few medium to even heavy games. And I don't consider this a heavy game, but

28:00 I think it's Yeah. Yeah. and um is right rather than a roll and right or something like that where we typically see the polyominos is definitely heavier than those. So, but a solid like medium kind of game I think is hard to play well at the higher player count.

28:12 Yeah, I did not know this went to six to be honest.

28:15 So, not surprising.

28:16 You know, there's like a thing on board game where you can sort games by number of players.

28:20 This is not Game Geek.

28:22 Yeah, I can see that in the games you can pick them.

28:25 No, I looked. It just didn't show up for some reason. Um not on me. It's their fault. All right. Um, my number six is one that I had on my list. Take it off, back on, back off, back, but I kept it on because I do love this game

28:37 and it went to six.

28:38 And it is, but this is the racing game that feels like a racing game. And it is heat.

28:45 I love this because it if everyone knows how to play, it goes quickly and the timeconsuming part happens simultaneously as you choose the gear and you put the cards down. And I think this plays better at more people because then it gets more exciting where everybody else goes. The blocking, the drafting, the more cars out there makes the race far more exciting. I played this with four and it's fine, but the excitement of having more people to go around really I don't mind actually four because I think the extra racer cars work really well.

29:19 They do. Yeah. is is crazy on how well it works and it doesn't add much time at all to the game.

29:25 Well, I don't think AI has re has replaced people yet.

29:31 But no, I think I think six is

29:33 there's my holier than thou pick today, Joe.

29:36 No, honestly, I mean, I think it's good. I It gets frustrated at six because they do do end up blocking you a lot for me, but I en I enjoy it. So, I think it's it's good. So

29:47 my number six, if you've come to a Dice Tower convention and you've played a game with me, your chances are high that this is the game. THIS IS VABANK.

29:54 OH WOW.

29:56 A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, TOO. WHAT' you think?

29:58 Well, I can't say because it probably later on list.

30:00 That's true.

30:01 No, Vanc is a game I always play because it's so quick. It takes, you know, less than an hour, probably 45 minutes to play. And with And I don't I don't remember the last time I played this with less than six.

30:12 It's our first game we play together, too. It's such a fun game of teaching people, bluffing. I played this with people who are like heavy gamers, people who are light gamers, people who are aren't gamers, and it just it's such a fun, entertaining game. I'm still surprised how

30:26 little love it gets. Did you see the magic card?

30:29 Yeah, that was like really impressive.

30:30 You thought you were a magician.

30:31 I was like, "Wow."

30:33 Um, good.

30:34 I I just think it's fantastic to just kind of outluff everybody else. You never know what's going to happen and it's

30:40 it plays so smoothly.

30:41 You are the biggest champion of this game. I believe that is true, but that's only because no one else plays.

30:46 I've never seen ANYONE ELSE BRING THAT.

30:47 THAT'S WHAT A CHAMPION IS, you know. Yeah. It's like you're the only one that talks about it and I think that's great.

30:52 Yeah, I agree. Bonk. It's fantastic at six. Speaking of welcome to it is my number five. It is my roll and right choice. I absolutely love this game. This is still my go-to, especially if I want to roll and write at a higher player count because I love the moment when you were all done and you're comparing your your neighborhoods together. I love that it's the same information that's being presented to everybody through the game, but you're going to end up with wildly different neighborhoods at the end. And I think that's such a cool moment where you think you're doing great or you think you're doing really poorly, then you come down and you score and you're like, "What? you got 30 30 more points.

31:43 You know how so? Let Oh my gosh, that's really cool. And you're like, I went into this strategy or oh, you were able to keep these over here open for longer, which means, you know, how I play. I'm like, you got 30 more points. Were you playing correctly?

31:55 Oh my god.

31:57 Have you played Welcome to the Moon?

31:59 I have.

32:00 So, is it better? You like the OG better?

32:01 Yes. I do not like Welcome to the Moon.

32:03 I love Welcome to the Moon.

32:04 Really? I I and to be fair, I did not make it past one play of it because I was so frustrated with the by the rule book. I would like we sat at a convention with five of us at a table trying to figure it out and it was a 45 minutes of not fun trying to get that one to the table. So, I I did not enjoy it. But I love Welcome, too, because I feel like it also has a lot of really good flexibility as you get the expansion packs in there. You know, I really like taking it out each season and playing it. I think you can play it at different cons, you know, you go to in larger player counts. And again, just six. It really shines because you can compare the boards when you're done and kind of see the varying strategies with the same information being presented. So, yeah, that's my number five. Welcome to your perfect neighborhood, I think it's called.

32:45 That's on my short list for sure. Um, until you made a random decision to eliminate Rand rights.

32:51 I did. I did. Um, all right. My number five is a crossover and it is a crossover with Camila

32:58 Grind House.

32:59 And no, I forgot that was the OG. This is King of Tokyo. This is I This one just stands out for me because again, I love how it balances. I love how you have I think Tokyo Bay over there that kind of

33:12 That's only a five. Yeah, but Right. It's a six-point game, right?

33:14 Right. But then it gets eliminated later as you go headtohead. And it's fun because you always have those one or two people that are going to go they're like, I'm going to just kill you all. It's like, okay, well, I'm gonna go for points, you know. But you watch those people and you're kind of rooting for them. But who's your favorite monster? The Gigazor I think is g is it gig or gigazor gig gig whatever it Yeah.

33:39 the king.

33:40 Yeah. I agree. It's the other thing. The costumes on this are fantastic.

33:46 The costumes. Are you talking about the Halloween costume thing?

33:49 Yes. You don't play the costumes?

33:51 I do. But I mean there's a limit where my my my my liking the theme gets a little like I can see Godzilla like destroying the city and costume but then he's like I also dressed UP FOR HALLOWEEN.

34:04 AT THAT POINT I'm like what is going on?

34:06 So good.

34:08 I can imagine the movie my mom and all King Kod comes in and goes look I'm a princess.

34:14 I love it. It's so good.

34:16 I love it. No I like it.

34:17 All right. And the evolution and the wicked track I think is a must by the way.

34:22 But you can only do that if you play Dark

34:24 I know Dark King of Tokyo.

34:25 It's supposed to be added to the Anyway, so I Yeah, this is a fantastic

34:29 in the King of Tokyo Godzilla. Did it have anything like that? Did it have that track?

34:33 Oh, I didn't check. It's got

34:34 It has stuff in it. I don't know where we can reveal everything in it yet or not.

34:38 Oh,

34:39 I don't know. I don't know. Just in case. Oh, the Rook from the Dice. Yeah, he's my favorite character.

34:43 Oh, there you go. Rosie party. You know, anyone? No, it's still it's still the king, man.

34:48 Yeah. Yeah.

34:48 Yeah. This is it. It's a great game. Again, scales so well, but in fast pace, so good.

34:53 They are asking here, what do you think when there's two players left and four people sitting around? I feel like everyone that's so close to the end game. This is player elimination that works as player elimination cuz you're talking about a 15-minute game.

35:03 I agree. If there's two people left, I'm like, "Wow, this game's almost over."

35:07 And at that point, you're rooting for whichever the two didn't take you out or you know what I mean? Like you're still involved at that point.

35:13 Yeah. I root for the one who did take me out because if they win, I'm like, "Wow, that's the only I would have been second."

35:18 Nope. I want to take them down with me. If I'm going down, you're going down, too.

35:22 All right, my number five. It's on the It's on every six player game list I've ever made because it's just it when I have six people and we're like, "What game should we play?" This is the one I pull out. You almost always if we have if we don't have a lot of time, it's For sale.

35:35 Forale just works with six players.

35:39 It's again, this is a game that I don't know. I can't remember the last time I played it and it wasn't six players. Um, it's just a it's a fun auction game where you you bid for these numbered cards from one to 30 and then the second half of the game you use those numbered cards to bid on properties and it it plays so quick, so smooth. It's fast. The theme is fun. Like I got the lighthouse, you know, and you're living in a cardboard box, you know, type situation.

36:02 Me or Joey?

36:03 I looked at Joey, but I can do you too if you want.

36:05 I'm good.

36:06 Um, anyway, for sale fantastic for six. That's my number five. How's it going? My number four is the pusher luck game that is more fun than Joey's pick. Mostly because I haven't played Joey's pick. This is Diamont or uh Ink and Gold.

36:34 That is correct.

36:35 Almost on my list.

36:36 You picked the other one over at Ink and Gold. Lude run.

36:40 I also like it, but better than ink and gold.

36:42 Well, I forgot

36:44 what about ink and gold?

36:48 Oh my goodness.

36:49 This is a good one. I've got your copy. Think

36:51 my original copy? I replaced it. Yeah. Yeah.

36:54 What copy do you have? Do you have the one that's pictured there with that box that Diamont?

36:57 I

36:58 Or the really wonderful one in the in that

37:01 I have the one with the boxes. With the boxes, not the one with the tents.

37:05 Okay. Well, the tent one was terrible. I mean that terrible quality, but it was still a good game.

37:10 It originally came with boxes, then I think they went back to boxes. The original

37:14 Diamont, I think, had the box.

37:16 The only thing is the torch guy, you don't know where he's going, by the way, going in or out.

37:21 You know, when you flip that card and you're

37:23 I do agree on that.

37:24 I almost felt like putting a big in and out of black markers cuz people like, "Oh, I meant in." Right.

37:31 Like I get it those cards because one's like this and the other's like this. Like right.

37:35 It's like ah.

37:36 But then you have the the the version too where you're playing with the mele and you either reveal the mele or drop the mele.

37:42 That's the original version.

37:43 Oh, I would do that.

37:44 And I do like that. I like playing with that. But then you have those people that don't drop at the same time. So if I play that way, I play your hand is empty. So it's not you hold it, you know, cuz I think it was like you you either reveal it like this or you drop it. Because you'd have people that'd be like and so I'm like your hand has to be either empty or full. One or two. Anyway.

38:01 Oh, right. Right. Oh, you played where they they could drop it or not. that that's how I was originally taught. They either drop it. They don't drop their hand. They either drop it or you turn it over, you know, something like that. And I was like, "Yeah, no, that's that's not definitely gonna be that guy in the group who goes,

38:13 I never meant to drop."

38:16 Yeah. So, anyway, I I really really like this. I think um it plays fantastic at six. really increases the tension and the the risk versus rewards because it it's going to cut out that I'm going to go out early just to get something because I know you guys are all going to push because if someone else is thinking like that there's a higher chance somebody is which means you're splitting the treasures so it's just a whole lot more tension in that decision of when to go and take all the treasures on the way versus stay a little bit longer um because you don't want to leave with somebody right it just just such a great tension at six so agree yeah that's my number four is the test. Push your lug game at four.

38:52 This is good. I do like the artwork for ink and gold anymore.

38:55 At six. At six. I said four. It's number four. At six. Yeah. Thank you.

38:59 Okay. My number four is the reason that Heat went on and off of the list because I wasn't sure if I wanted two racing games and I knew I wanted this one on there.

39:09 Can I guess?

39:11 Is it

39:13 Restorations game? I forget the name of it now.

39:14 No, it is new.

39:16 Okay. So, it's not Down Force then cuz I was going to

39:18 Downforce. That was my Yeah. ask about that one.

39:20 It is hot streak.

39:22 Hot streak is not a racing game. Hot streak is a betting game. They're racing.

39:27 You don't race at all in this game. You're betting.

39:29 People race. We're watching a race. Down for the same way.

39:32 The race adjacent. Um this one again, I played it over the last week at six and it works really well. I I enjoy this game. Again, it's silly fun. It should be that fun. And every time think I get joy out of the fact every time you explain this and people are like I'd like to leave the table right now please and then they end up playing one round and they're like this is great

39:52 right

39:53 you know

39:54 and I've seen dieh hard heavy euro gamers go

39:57 yes

39:57 fine I'll play it again

39:59 yes exactly yeah this is it's fantastic it's a game that should not be as fun as it is but I I really enjoy it wacky this has replaced because otherwise Camel Up would have been up there for me um too

40:10 but um this replaced that because It doesn't miss.

40:14 I just can't see myself ever playing Camelop again.

40:16 I agree. I agree. I know it just Camelop has the stories when they get on those back of those referee ones, but this just it always is great.

40:23 That's interesting. I was interested in Camel up until you compared it to this.

40:25 All right. I straight up cheated. I could not decide

40:30 what game to put on my list. So, there's a tie for number four.

40:33 No,

40:34 there's a tie for number four.

40:35 Are they at least similar?

40:36 Hot streak.

40:36 Okay, I'll give it to you.

40:37 And Magical Athlete. To

40:38 be fair, they're both trash and very similar. Yeah.

40:40 What? Yeah,

40:42 I couldn't figure out which one to put. Now, as a side note, some people are like, "Where's Ready, Set, Bet?" Ready, Set, Bet is an eight player. It's a to 10 player game for me. I want to as many people as I can. Yes, that's why it's on the list. But for six players, Magical Athlete, and Hot Streak, and I couldn't decide which one I like better, and this is straight up cheating, but I own the company.

41:00 I don't roll that card very often, but

41:02 the Dice Tower Company,

41:04 I definitely don't own CK. I don't think after my comments on the Vetta Li, they will allow that. Uh, but I do love both these games a lot and they both give me that very same satisfaction and that's how you put 11 games in your list cuz once you put an entire category big boxes on the list and I will never forget that you're like my next game is an entire category. Like

41:26 I will say I love how unashamedly you promote this game because it's just such a silly game. Like you were at my house I had friends that did not game. I walk out and you're playing this and I asked him like what are you doing? He goes I'm a giant baby. What does Why is he Garcia COMING HERE TALKING TRASH ABOUT HOT STREAK?

41:42 I I am full team Garcia on this one. This game is

41:46 Does Z not like it?

41:47 Fun. No, Z I think hates it even more than I do. And I would probably put it at a three.

41:52 I I cannot even comprehend that.

41:54 I I do not have fun with either of these.

41:56 You put grind house on your list,

41:57 which is fun. How many limbs do you lose in this?

42:01 That's true.

42:01 They fall over and magical athlete, they get eaten sometimes. No. No. This is just

42:07 Wait, which one are you giving the three to? Both.

42:09 No, she likes Husty.

42:10 Um,

42:11 wait. Which one are you saying a three to?

42:13 M Gladly.

42:14 I think I'm trying to decide if it's both or one. Um, I say probably I don't care for either of these games. I I genuinely

42:19 find me at a play. Wow.

42:23 All righty. That is my number four. All right, my number three is one of the ones I think. Yeah, one of the ones because uh seven wonders architect goes to seven and then this goes to seven as well. And I very very strongly prefer to play this at six. Um for sorry I forgot to say it's forgotten waters. Forgotten Waters really shines at these higher player counts at six and seven because you're not having to play with the the the ghost pirate. You're not having to have that dummy character. And so it it has an interesting tension when you get to this phase

43:08 there with four. Do you?

43:09 Yes. At five you don't have to use it. And I don't I don't like playing that because then they always end up going to the one that somebody has to do. Um and so I really like that. It has this interesting tension of this where am I going to go? I guess I'll take this. Somebody has to take that bad action. And it's not a bad action. It's just kind of a I guess I'll sail the ship, you know. And then it's also you have the different parts of the ship that you control and everyone just has one part of those. You're not having to to serve two roles. Um so they're really evenly distributed. And I think then the game really shines with the table talk as you have your your own stories that you're talking about and your own story lines that you're pursuing and character development. They just become a lot more interactive and fun as you have those kind of like Paul's Mad Lib moments that really shine in in a good group discussion. So lead to a lot of really fun moments together. So I really really enjoy this one at um six or seven.

44:07 I have not played this with six or seven.

44:10 I don't think I would though. I think it's just too many people at the table for this.

44:13 I think you do need to know that it is it is longer at that. I mean, at that so you really have to use that halfway stopping point of it and you're probably looking at two and a half to well probably three hours and but this is my type of game. The experience, the the fun, the the laughing moments, the jokes, you know, it's kind of like us sitting around. It feels like us sitting around

44:33 trick is what I'm hearing.

44:33 No, no. It's like, no, it's like us sitting around. It's like us sitting around playing D and D, you know, when we do that or the four balloons when we're in that like throwing around the silly jokes. Um, so I Yeah, I really really like it.

44:45 Yep. Number three.

44:47 All right. Um, my number one. Uh, my number three is one that it plays at it plays at six, but I actually play it with more ships than they say. This is fantastic. It's again a newer game, but an older game. And every time I have six people at my house, I always pull out lighteed arena. And one thing they tell you to use less ships. Do not use less ships. Use the full number of ships. Put six people out there. Get on a stepladder. Take the picture from Google Earth and see what happened.

45:17 Get your drone. Get as many asteroids as you want. I want utter chaos in this.

45:21 I love this game more than Joey does even.

45:24 It's not possible.

45:26 But I will not play it with six. That's too many. And the nonsense he just said about putting all the cards table. There needs to be some strategy in it become nothing but chaos.

45:36 I don't like just chaos.

45:37 No, no, it's it's not.

45:38 I mean, he doesn't want magical athlete or HOT STREAK.

45:41 THIS NEW PEOPLE ON THIS LIST FIRED.

45:44 CHRIS, WHERE ARE YOU? SO, this right here, you can make you can make it wider. And you know what? It was me testing to see if the camera can go up here. And it's really good. So, you have got six players out there. And you can there there rules you do four ships if you want to do that with asteroids or whatever. I don't how many it is, but this plays so

46:02 I definitely did not put this on my list because of that. I also found with six it's trickier to figure out where to put

46:08 the space the bases. It's it's kind of a pain. And four, they go in four corners. Five, I that fifth one when I played I put in the middle cuz I'm the I don't care because I played before. Where do you put six?

46:19 Everywhere.

46:21 Again, that that that's not an answer. That is how the universe works. There are more than six players with people on it in this world.

46:28 When this came across my thing, I rejected it because I said it just it's six is not the right number.

46:32 He is wrong.

46:32 I didn't realize it could play at six. And I I think

46:34 only with expansions, by the way. Keep that in mind.

46:37 Great expansions.

46:38 We were doing that. If there's an expansion that takes it to six, you can play it at six.

46:41 Well, that mostly is a bad idea.

46:44 Great idea.

46:45 If the game was good at six, I would have started with six with one exception, which is on my list. But that doesn't matter.

46:49 It is. I know it's on my list. My number three is a crossover with Camila.

46:55 Hey yo, great house.

46:56 No.

46:57 Oh, I'm still waiting.

46:58 This is one I I I forgot that it was really good with six, and that's Planet Unknown.

47:02 Oh, so good. Yeah, I like I really like Polyomino games to some degree, but I find that they often slow down a lot of times. But this one with that little lazy Susan just makes me very happy. Everyone's picking the thing in front of them. You have two choices,

47:18 and then everyone has a different tracks that they're moving up. So, I can spend some time my turn cuz everybody is. But it also doesn't feel like the game drags at all. I really like it a lot. It's not a perfect game. There's some weird I think the differences in planets are not balanced at all.

47:35 Right. Yeah.

47:35 I think that the even the corporations are not 100% balanced, but but they're balanced enough that I don't care that strongly about it.

47:43 I do like that they balance the sides of are you playing on the advanced side or the non-advanced side. I've played it. I play on the advanced side with new players who aren't, they're playing on the standard side and it works well. I do think it sure self balances that way, but then the corporations, if you're all in advance, they they do get a little wonky.

47:58 Yeah. But it's it's almost wonky in a

48:02 you're like, yes.

48:04 Ah, it's fine. It's it's it's charming almost, but I like this one a lot. Planet Unknown. And at number two is heat pedal to the metal. I was quiet during Joey's pick. I think it is welld deserved here and everything that Tom said. I think this plays very well at lower player counts. I think you can have that autonomous card and it plays very well, but ultimately I want it at six players because I want that human element to it. He's on my list. She quoted quoted you.

48:44 No, no, she said she agreed with me about that.

48:46 I did agree with him player.

48:47 Yeah, I think it very well. It works very well. But still, if I have my brothers, if I get a choice, I want to play it at six where you have that human element where it's you got in my way, not like, oh, that car got in my way. That that guy got, you know what I mean? It just really brings it into a a more tense personal experience. And I really really like that. Going back again to that simultaneous play, you know, at these higher player, I I dropped my fiddle stick. Um,

49:12 it's called a pencil.

49:13 Yeah, but but I fiddle with it.

49:15 I'll get it.

49:16 It's right there. Thanks.

49:17 In the meantime, I'll just segue naturally.

49:20 Kept talking.

49:20 I know. I lost my I'm good. I'm good now.

49:22 It's a great racing game. It's

49:24 fantastic. I think that um Yeah. So, the parts of the game that slows that slow down is done simultaneous. And it really has a neat tension to that reveal as people jump in front of each other and the slip the slipstream action is so powerful and interactive at the great at the higher player count. So, heat pedal the metal number two.

49:43 It's a good pick.

49:44 Thanks.

49:44 I agree.

49:45 Thought of it myself.

49:46 This one is probably not on either of your list because you're wrong. This one right here. This is

49:51 probably way to judge.

49:52 Oh, I already know you're you're going to argue with this. The castle adventure one.

49:55 This No, it doesn't play at six.

49:57 This Dungeons and Dragons just

49:58 No, that would been great though. This one is the only game here that I would

50:03 I have to play with people that have played before. And um every most scenarios on here say to play with six. Usually people play with three players, two survivors a piece.

50:14 Zombie side.

50:14 Zombie side.

50:16 Zombie. I knew he was going to argue with this. It is. Let me tell you why at six I love this. Because first of all, the turns themselves are quick if you know what you're doing. Because it's a very simple game. But then also with six, you get so much diversity and roles and all that stuff and you get some planning and it makes it a lot more enjoyable. There's a reason why initially they had six survivors, so everyone grabs one. And I understand three with two is fun, but it's just this game works.

50:42 Which zombie side you're talking about? Zombie Side 2.0. The

50:45 really second I haven't played Marvel Zombies at six. I assume it plays at six, right? I don't know.

50:48 Would never know.

50:50 Second edition is one I kind of go to. Black Plague 2. Um, this is fun. I enjoy this at six. You know, you can go through and it's always one guy gets left behind. You're like, I'll come get you. It just I love that survivor feel. is a very epic end of the world feel when you have to separate parties and divide roles and things. And we also have rules that if you are not in the room with the other survivor, you cannot talk to them. So there's no like you no communication. So no alpha gamer. So we we initially say you can't talk to the person unless you're in the room with them. How does that work as far as like you can't say you should do this?

51:27 Oh you okay? You can't

51:28 Yeah. Yeah. You can't say you should you can still talk to the person. That would be fantastic. Yeah. No talking.

51:34 Yeah.

51:35 Then no one like one guy but you had three different people in two different rooms and it's like very confusing.

51:40 Play over there.

51:42 What's a pizza?

51:43 Anyway.

51:45 All right. Yeah. So anyway, Zombie Side is my number two.

51:48 My number two is a weird one that I like a lot and I forgot how much I liked. I played it on the cruise recently and it plays best with six and this is a game called Cursed Court. Cursed Court is

51:59 not an amazing looking game at all.

52:03 But what I like about this game is each of those characters there there's nine characters on the board and some of these characters are in each round. You don't know how many there's a card between each player. So me and Camil will have a card and we know that that character is in the in the round. There's also multiple cards for each character.

52:20 So maybe there's two cards for that spy looking guy in the bottom corner. And then there's a card that we all know that's in the in the round. And then we bet. And what you're betting on is you can bet on a person and you'll get points based on the number of cards that are in the game. You or you can bet on see that red piece there at the bottom by itself. That's betting that all three of the pieces above that in a row are in. And the and the brown one is all three pieces. I'm sorry, not column. The brown one is the row. And that blue one is the three pieces in that corner. So you're kind of betting which characters are in the game. And I'm watching what you bet because I know you know some information I don't know.

52:53 Right. And when you bet, you can put chips under your bet. Everyone has 20 chips. But when you outbid somebody else, you have to bid at least double what they put.

53:03 Oh, I forgot that. I forgot it was double.

53:05 Oh,

53:05 yeah. So, it goes back and forth. So, if you bet 11 on something, nobody can ever out bid you.

53:11 Huh.

53:11 But then you're also down to nine chips left over. I really like this one. It's fun back and forth. It

53:17 Some people have really bounced off hard off this. I I know I know Mike Delisio actually likes it a lot, too. Um,

53:22 interesting. I I didn't I bounced off this one, but I think it is because it it's a little you have to watch too carefully and like it's that meta. It almost more social deduction. It's like social deduction of betting, you know, like you were saying like, "Oh, you did that, so you know that, so maybe you know that, but you did the last turn, so maybe that, you know, something like that." And it was so that's that's a me play style. But, um, that the group I was with like that.

53:43 If you didn't play with the doubling rule, though, that would also drag the game out forever.

53:47 I'm saying I don't I don't remember that rule. I'm not saying I didn't. It was also like four or five years ago. So, yeah. Yeah, I like the I also like the pieces of this. The chips, they stack fun.

53:56 I was thinking that those are nice pieces.

53:58 You've not played this one, I don't think. Yeah, this is a again not I I think of in the Dice Tower people I think me and Mike are the only ones who really like it, but I just really enjoy it. It's a lot of fun. Cursed Court.

54:19 All right, my number one is a team Joey pick. This is going to be Zombicide. I am with Joey.

54:26 I wonder why you didn't get in the argument. Oh, wait. Obvious Invader.

54:29 Well, Invader because Invader's my favorite thematically. I love it. I also have Project Elite and I love that crossover pack. So, I just I thematically I put put Zomicide Invader, but it specifically I like Invader, Green Horde, Second Edition. Those are my three top. Um, but no, I think like you said, if everybody knows how to play, that is my ideal situation at six. Now, if I'm playing less than that, or if I'm teaching the game, then I'm going to have to run multiple characters and I don't like it. I think that as much, I should say. But after I play and get them up to speed, it's like, all right, do we want to play again, you know, and everyone just have their one character? Because I feel like the turns go quicker when you only have one. I think because you're strategizing for your own specific character, you're seeing it like universally from that viewpoint and not like, well, this character did this and then this person did this, but then you do that in that order. So, it just kind of streamlines the thought process.

55:19 Um, and makes it very interactive. You talked about the alpha players. Yes. I think that's a bad player problem, though. I mean, I if you know how to play this game, I've probably played with you. We're sitting down at at six, you know, um to to play this. So, I I really

55:32 He didn't make the role. His wife did. Oh, that checks out. Just kidding. I love you, Alex. Um, but I um but no, so I I really that is my ideal situation for this game. If there's six players, this is the one I instantly think of. Hey, does everyone know how to play Zombide?

55:49 Let's play that real quick then. Well, not real quick, but let's play that. So, I really really enjoy it. That's

55:55 mentioned Project Elite. I did not put on there because Project Lead's amazing at four. Six is too many in my opinion.

56:01 Yes, Project Elite is my one of my short list. I four to five is my ideal. I think it works really well up to five. After six, there's too many hands reaching on the board and it gets a little slappy.

56:13 Yeah, I don't play at six. So,

56:14 I don't know what your number one is cuz I

56:16 several that you've already said was number one.

56:19 Does an expansion

56:21 is it smash up with

56:22 No, it takes an expansion to play it at six.

56:24 Oh gosh, again.

56:26 Is it a crossover?

56:28 Yes, it better be a crossover. Isn't on your list. You've forgotten it. But anyway, this is probably the best six player, the best simultaneous game you can play out there. It is by John Declair and it is Space Base.

56:39 No,

56:39 Space Base is right.

56:41 I disagree.

56:41 Space Base is great at six.

56:43 Tom, Space Base is Tom's in okay at six.

56:46 Tom, it is a It is great at six. Because you get to build up and you get to see those rockets fly up. I mean, I love

56:52 Let me explain to you why it's not good at six. Because if you get a good card that goes off on other people's turns, it goes off too many times before your turn. It makes the red cards too powerful.

57:05 Sounds like a player problem.

57:07 NO, THAT DOES NOT SOUND LIKE A PLAYER PROBLEM. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

57:10 But here's the thing. I MEAN, THE SAME thing is going to happen to four and five. This does give you more often more turns on.

57:18 Strategy does play at six, but this one plays great at six. I love this game at six. I I enjoy this. I enjoy it far more than like

57:27 I love space. I really love the game, but I will play at four.

57:30 It's I mean your engines, they fire off faster. Simultaneous play on this keeps everything flowing. I really enjoy this at six players. Space space.

57:40 Wow.

57:41 Yeah. Oh, I saw the

57:43 I did some searches for best games at six and then this one came up and I was like,

57:46 "No."

57:47 And you're like instantly new.

57:49 I love the change in the strategy and all the different player counts on this. Like when you play two players, totally different three. You've got to really deviate on what you buy depending on how you play.

57:57 One time I beat this game at with the I win card. It was a five player game and it's because I had stuff that went up on other people's turn and I got the resources and I'll take that win. I'm not backing off. It's my win. But I was like, "Yeah, five's too many. Four. Four." Z agrees with me. He says mathematically four is the same as six. That's just math. So Z, shouldn't you be doing something? I'm not helping, man. Um, all right. My number one, I'm not going to apologize. My number one's Cosmic Encounter. It's obvious, but I will, again, I clarified this at the beginning of the list. This is the player count. I think it's good at six. I'm not putting it on my five player, four player, three. I'll play with five.

58:36 I won't play with four anymore.

58:38 Look at baby Tom.

58:40 That is the back in the white table days. That was 2008.

58:44 Have you thought about like

58:45 that video?

58:46 Redoing the video.

58:47 I probably should. No, just upscale it.

58:51 It's so old. It's not even the 16 by9.

58:54 You're right.

58:55 The right ratio.

58:56 You give that to police, they're like, "Do you have a better hands?" No wrinkles. Okay.

58:59 Cute.

59:00 Was that That was almost 20 years ago now. Anyhow, um we're going to have something counter. Great game with six players and negotiation's fun. I'm attacking Joey. Camille, do you want to join? There's like two people can join each side. I'm actually disappointed that this doesn't make your list at all.

59:14 It did, but I was like,

59:15 you played it when we first met. You were like, "Please teach me this game. I love this game, but I put it more into not deduction, but negotiation type thing. I guess it fits into that. No, I agree. Six is fantastic with this. I love it a six.

59:27 Yeah.

59:27 Well, there you go.

59:28 All right.

59:29 That's my number one. We got a few other choices. I have quite a few other choices. Actually, we'll mention those in a little Patreon video for our Patreon backers. So, if you

59:37 our Patreon backer, we'll have that up sometime either later today or tomorrow.

59:41 EVERYONE ELSE, THANK YOU SO MUCH for watching. We'll be going through player numbers over this year, doing all the different player counts. 5432 Eight, nine, 10.

59:48 Maybe even solo. I've

59:50 Oh, you went the other direction. Got it. Okay.

59:53 I might do an eight plus list on my own at some point. Agree. Just There's so few though. It would be pretty.

59:59 Yeah. Or I mean, if you did that or did seven plus since we're not doing the seven above above, but then give that kind of that aren't party games.

1:00:05 And I'll have all the I'll have all the um Look at Tom does six. He's like an eight plus.

1:00:10 Seven people do not come to my house. You have seven. If you split the three player one, all right,

1:00:16 thank you all for watching. Until the next time. I'm Tom.

1:00:18 I'm Joey.

1:00:18 And I'm Camila.

1:00:19 Thanks. Bye.

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