Did You Fall For These Board Game Lies? More Two Truths & A Lie: Games Edition - Lost In The Shuffle

0:00 it's rematch time I lost at board game two truths and a lie and I could not let that stand I am coming for the lead we are playing another episode of two truths and a lie because I don't want to get lost in the shuffle yeah we recorded something long enough ago that it may not actually have been the episode before this one when it airs but it was recently enough that we haven't bothered to change our show that is true as much as it pains me to say you are up two to one in true truth and Alive there's the saying you know quitting while you're ahead sure so we'll we'll just call this pause in the head I brought this shirt back because I was like I need to redeem myself in the same clothing I was when I I was wearing when I lost oh I actually only own like three shirts that's too bad Matthew is going to give us two truths and One Lie and we're going to have to pick which one is the LIE yes so one of these and you're not going to know what it is either play along with us you know let's get started with the next question that Matthew has for us before they were famous founded in 1975 Games Workshop was originally a manufacturer of wooden boards for games including backgamon manala and go number two is cool mini or not was founded as a community site for posting images of painted Miniatures inspired by Hot or Not style dating sites and number three days of Wonder started out as a newsletter specializing

1:36 in tips and strategy guides for popular board games I will say one I really want the cool mini one to be true like I just really Tinder for painted Min is my miniature Hot or Not hot that just is hilarious to me and I'm going to be really sad if that's the lie you know okay I just I just can imagine people posting like look at my I I to this took me 13 hours and then someone being like 13 hours wasted you know the internet is a cruel mistress yeah for sure all right okay so I'm I'm believing in my heart of hearts that one's true then what I mean what do you think where's the lie here I can't see Games Workshop doing anything other than Warhammer you know but but maybe but if they've been around for a long time all of the games that he mentioned are very classic games you could certainly have a business plan making like really nice custom boards for those types of games sure well today maybe way back when Games Workshop started that I don't know okay that's sir I think you may be full of beans sure I also feel like days of Wonder though like can you really make a company off of a newsletter oh but that's such a sweet story that's it is but days of Wonder also that name days of Wonder has nothing to do with a newsletter oh you no

3:10 it's this is my passion I love Bo games they're the wondrous Pastime days of Wonder newsletter local boy makes good that's what that is right there okay I I am all in on the days of Wonder newsletter I'm saying that the LIE has got to be the Games Workshop one I'm saying the LIE is the days of Wonder one oh I'm not about sweetness I'm about Hot or Not ranking Miniatures all right all right as difficult as it is to believe the cool mini or not one is true it started off as a hot or not but minis the LIE of course was days of wonder which was founded in 2002 it was publishing a game of gang of four then in March 2004 the company released ticket to R I'm back in we're tied up here I'm back in no sir I don't like it oh the sweet one that you really had your heart set on turned out to be a lie such a hope for mankind nope Das we're ranking hot Miniatures okay let me regain faith in humanity by going on to the next question okay Ford game Hall of Fame I am finding these quite funny even though I wrote them Katan was inducted into the national toy Hall of Fame in 2021 two Uno was inducted into the national toy Hall of Fame in

4:40 2018 and three Magic the Gathering was inducted into the national toy Hall of Fame in 2019 oh good gravy that is I this is a real shot in the dark I have no idea they said Uno 2018 magic of the Gathering 2019 and Katan 202 hard thing about this one is that there's a big time period between each of them like magic the Gathering was a early 90s game inducted in 2019 Katan was a mid99s game inducted in 2021 so I guess for me maybe I would say uno would have been inducted earlier than he's saying it is because it is an earlier game than the other ones I mean Uno's been around for since I don't know when Uno feels like a game that has just always existed no when did Uno come out do you have any idea Uno was 1971 that's it's still he said completely off the top of his yeah but I'm just saying like the other two timeline wise make more sense than Uno I feel like Uno has been one of the highest selling games for a long time so you would have inducted it before 208 18 or whatever he said okay so that's your pick that's my pick I think I've got you okay see I'm taking a different approach okay I'm looking at the toy Hall of Fame here is an organization that a few

6:11 years ago inducted stick into the toy Hall of Fame really yes only recent within the last five six 10 years with since 1971 sometime between now and 1971 they have inducted stick into their Hall of Fame so they have a very specific kind of size and scope reach of games that they are looking for and I think that magic the Gathering is too complex to be in the toy Hall of Fame oh you just think it's not even in there I don't think I was thinking more about date you're thinking more of just not even in there that's so I'm thinking that magic the Gathering is the LI for that reason interesting though Magic the Gathering I feel like is the groundwork for every other TCG that's popular these days but that's not maybe I get your point is like it's not really a toy M I got to caught up on the years that's me being a history guy okay let's see which one it paid off for yeah have you successfully found the lie that I wo weaved into this tapestry of deception did you know that Katan wasn't the winner H it was merely a runner up and it lost to American Girl dolls risk and who could forget sand Katan lost just sand wow I think most Gamers would Place sort of the start of modern board gaming with Katan absolutely right I feel like that's the sort of

7:44 Benchmark for our hobby that's the sort of once Katan came out we moved way more into strategy way less away from Rolling moves and stuff like that absolutely that's the Benchmark game and so it's even if even if you're a board gamer you may not have ever played K but you know about it you know about it sort of place in history and so the toy industry not even putting it in there is Blasphemous and we should all write letters don't write emails I want you to physically write a letter to the the toy Hall of Fame come watch our show and get chores yes get Katan in the toy Hall that's wild to me that's not in there does this mean that we both lost we did both lose yeah okay we got steuart here for luck yeah Stuart whisper in my ear what the answer is please help me step into the Eerie woods with Scream where every card flip might unleash a shriek or a strategy Scream the card deduction game for three to five players is the spiritual sequel to the camping theme competition scram and in Scream we learned that during their stay in the woods the campers from scram foolishly unleashed the powers of the necrom monicon oops well now your camping Adventure has turned all spooky and such with creatures from your darkest nightmares coming out of the woodwork can you survive the night well in Scream players will still draw and play and exchange their cards but also will use bluffing elements as well then scream when you

9:15 believe you have the lowest score and with killer timing you'll survive until morning Victorious scream reaches retail this August and you can follow the link in this video's description to pre-order it now directly from feier games and receive 10% off your purchase plus free shipping in the US or discounted international shipping so follow the link for complete details and get ready to warm up those vocal cords with a little bit of screaming in Scream Bo game mascots which of these mascots is angang Factor deception the mascot for Origins toy fair is a little orange creature called crit pxs unplugged has a purple mascot called dots the dragon or number three the mascot for wellon in New Zealand is a lovable green Wellington boot called well he's like these are two things you guys have clearly been to and one you've never heard of having a mental breakdown a crisis as it were with this one because I'm pretty sure that Origins has a little fuzzy mascot but I was certain if it was purple but now that I'm picturing it in my head I'm no longer certain and I'm doubting myself and I will find strength in that doubt to think maybe I did see it as orange sure sure so I think that one's true okay okay I obviously know nothing about the third one I just know nothing about that convention and it's mascot I know what

10:50 my pick is ooh I think I know what mine is too I think the Wellington one for New Zealand has got to be true yeah because New Zealand is such an amazing place that that's something that they would do sure so that means that the one that's not that which was packs unplugged that's got to be the lie I also think the pxs unplugged one is a lie so uh we are at an impass here okay well uh okay you know what I got to do then huh I got to either convince you to change your pick which I don't think I'm going to be able to do you're not going to so I'm going to have to go back to my initial Instinct and say I think that the origins mascot I remember seeing him be purple okay and not orange sure so I think that maybe Matthew did that little tweak to it so I'm have to pick that one it's a lie all right I'm almost positive that one's true because I have a little orange fuzzy guy that they gave me from Origins I'm I'm also actually almost positive it's the true but that's that's what I got to go with and I think that I think and Pax unplugged is purple but I don't think it's a dragon I think Gen Con is more the dragon and Pax unplugged is something else and I don't know what it is but yeah if if it weren't for this bloody tie I would so totally be changing my also you can just we could just have a tie and then and then be friends and and win together that's okay with me no thanks that option had not even occurred well let's find out just how

12:27 much you're going to win by okay unfortunately here the deception that I deceived you so well perhaps with is well con doesn't have a mascot as far as I can tell but I mean if it did have one it would be a Wellington boot called well come on so we're still tied yep so we have ended in a tie once again because we both got way too many wrong in two truths that we both could not find the lies too often but we can't let that stand so we asked Matthew to send us another tiebreaker question so that hopefully we're not still tied at the end of this yes okay are you ready yes I'm ready all right here we go as described earlier you can search for all manner of categories but some are more popular than others I've got three category facts one of them is a lie there are more farming games than zombie games number two there are more dice games than memory games or number three there are more party games than print and play games those all feel like they could be true to me you know a lot of people are like well I don't like memory games and people love dice so it would make sense that there's more dice than memory games than memory games right I forgot about that I see what you did there I also feel like there are a lot of print and play games but there's also a ton of party games and like Mass Market games and stuff like that that

13:57 we don't always think about in the hobby space there's so many of those are party games right there's so many games that like only get sold on Amazon and that's the only place they sell and so many of those are party games true that's true and the first one was Farming versus zombie zombie that one feels like it's close but I also believe there's so many farming games there's so many zombie games there's so many farming games there's so many zombie games I don't know I don't know this one is too hard for me I want I feel like they're all true okay there was a huge glut of zombie everything from like 2012 through 2018 seemed like I feel like I know which one I'm going with I think I do print and play there's I mean who you could I could make a print and play in 15 minutes with a piece of scratch paper yeah so so does this mean print and play they're actually like listed on Board Game Geek in that category the category of the question was categories I guess perhaps categorically that's what it is so that leaves the no that doesn't leave the Farming versus zombies that leaves the dice versus what was that memory memory back to the same bit that that one wasn't a p really I'll tell you what my pick is as much as I think there are party games there are just so many print andplay games if you want to make a game you don't have the budget to

15:31 make a game print and play I'm going to pick that one I am not going to pick that for the reason that I think a lot of print andplay games are made on such a small scale that they true they never get they might not be on BGG they exactly they might not be actually categorized yep no that's fair so I'm going to go with the Farming versus zombie games because zombies were everywhere for years but farming is such a standby a standard for games it's got to be more that's got to be the lie if he said there were more he said there were more farming games than zombie games oops definitely not the memory one so I'm I'm going with that one whatever it was okay all right the lie was number one there are actually more zombie games than farming games there's 306 farming games and 1520 zombie games wow Grant you played a good competition ition I've lost two games of this in a row that's what made it a good competition for me so yeah all right grant what you got first us at PX and plugged I got to play the new game El Paso which is coming out soon which is a version of great Great Western Trail that is meant to be a little shorter a little bit more accessible a little bit easier to teach and personally I am more of a mediumweight gamer than I am a heavy gamer you know if I have 4 hours to play games I want to play three games I don't

17:03 want to just play one game and so I'm not a big Great Western Trail guy but El Paso boom that's a version of Great Western Trail that I can play in an hour in 90 minutes something like that and so if you're looking I mean obviously Great Western Trail is very highly ranked it is a great game but it doesn't work for everybody and El Paso I feel like brings in a new audience to the sort of world of Great Western Trail which I like a lot I'm happy that it exists so that's my pick I think that's a really good pick thanks for joining us and uh we'll talk to you again soon