Top 100 Co-operative Games - 100 to 81 PART II - The Broken Meeple

[Music] okay so this game was not on my list but I happen to have it here it's in my game group at least I just borrowed it this is under words they go from Matt is still a great theme tune a 60s version so Thunderbird this is this game could basically be called pandemic : Thunderbirds pretty much its pandemic um okay it like so we made a decision on the thing so we really could have if we really wanted to pad this list to separate out every pandemic right now we could separate it out Cthulhu and Iberia and right from tired we said no we're just gonna go with pandemic however you separated this one out this is still been Demick this is so like the little thing is what justifies this being a separate game and Iberia is not a separate game I tell me that it's different enough though I mean the pandemics all the pandemics involve some degree of here some cubes they appear on a city they outbreak or you know whatever the cubes are representing that's it Thunderbirds is different enough I mean yeah you're on a map of the world and you go off to you're trying to get across the map and do different things but it the map is not as straightforward as simply a glow because you've got like going off into space and that there's a lot more logistical stuff you got to do for where you off hey your Bekir when I'm talking to you you trying to get like more fun diverse stuff I forgot to actually turn on the power strip of my computer yeah I plugged it in but I forgot some of the power strips it was like just gave me the battery low symbol alright not doing that there you go sorry yeah so you've got the logistics of getting the vehicles to the right place you've got a card system for all the devastations that going on in the world and you choose which ones you're gonna let you know slide which ones you're gonna do so there's definitely more different differentiation between this and the normal pandemics and certainly I mean I've I never watched the children's TV show but I've got that nostalgic thing for it of like oh yeah you know fund the birds that was nice and cheesy it did its job love the theme too everyone likes to sort of mock it with the whole puppetry thing and we had that was that film called er I've got in my collection mats don't Ray Parker one yeah the team America or something that parodies Thunderbirds like crazy as well as other things but great movie but did and I just think there's enough in this to say yeah it's got similarities to pandemic I mean Matt Leacock is kind of you know doing that a little bit too much these days but I feel like you know if you put pandemic and Thunderbirds near each other I think people would you know be able to say yeah that's different to this one yeah it's definitely one more for the fans or these ones who have got a nostalgic collection connection to fund the birds but yeah I felt it deserved to have a separate position I guess well one thing that just I'm plainly a little bit no but III agree with there this has vehicles and the vehicles are really cool like when you add like that little mechanical wrinkle that just kind of makes the game it a little bit different so you you know so you're in your your your little guy and you have the little vehicle give me a Corvette it could be a submarine or whatever it is and they have different rules depending on you know how much you move and everything so that actually actually found that pretty cool yeah I agree it did not make my list it is a good game co-op game that I like did not make my list I have a hundred ones that I like more all right hey go plenty of co-op games a little gateway like co-op and the expansions did do a good job of making it no harder but also allowing you to play against a player rather than the game itself although the only time I tested that was I think Essen your and a bit ago cuz Matt Leacock was at Plato's a publishers that will event like drinks event and he was basically showing off Thunderbirds all the expansions so we got to play a game with him as the evil guys I forget what they're called the hood or something he played God and the rest of us were playing co-op against him and we were the one I mean we did pretty well against him if we hadn't run out of time and had to bail out and let someone else take over because it was a demo thing they lost we were the one so we had Matt Leacock running we had him running alright so that is Thunderbirds I or number 90 90 yep 89 okay so these next two are ones that were particular to my list so this is the kind of thing you come to a top of 100 list for these little like coops that are really good and maybe don't get the press or the recognition of whatever it is I got one for you right here this is V commando so actually if you are a fan of the dice tower you know that Samuel likes this game deservedly so so it is a world war 2 themed game but it's not like a human or a skirmish game or anything it's a stealth mission game so you have your collection of Heroes and they're just kind of like sneaking in behind enemy lines and then do whatever mission so the mission could be gonna slash the tires of some you know Jeep I'm gonna blow up you know what you call a pile of whatever the guns I figure out the guns but where were tuned up people are going like how would you not know yeah there you go that could blow pop I love machineguns all I do a little tower defense thing we like kind of get to the radio tower II have to defend against the people around the stealth is pretty cool it kind of resolves itself with a die roll which I wish it was a little bit more robust I wish I kind of liked cuz what are you doing a stealth game right what are you doing Batman or you know you have to like knock over here draw the guy out and you know choke him out and everything I wish you could do a little bit more of that I could see why they went a little bit more family-friendly yeah Amy T with mechanics if you try to include oh oh waiting for that I'm waiting for that awesome stuff game but this one just kind of just just hand waves all that way gives you a stealth I roll ways to kind of like you know manipulated everything depending on where you are I definitely like this game maybe play this game looked nah no I mean that's why it's like my list at all I know Sam loves it it sounds interesting it sounds like something I would probably like you know I don't go mad on the wall ones but I like the I didn't the stealth is a factor you're not just shooting up people it is you know you're trying to hide as much as you are until eventually you do get found out but it sounds good I've just never seen a copy anywhere in the UK I don't even know if it made UK distribution let alone or maybe it was too old a game and it was a print before I started gaming lots I mean how old is it it's not that old it just came out with an expansion actually recently they were they're still kind of tried noir as a company from Quebec and they're still kind of putting the word out there about it they don't have a lot of you know games or anything like that but it's it's a really cool one if you guys want to I go really under the radar cool co-op that is V commandos the next one is let's see oh not under the radar at all I don't think you've played nah I haven't that no even the computer game is based on so I have played the computer game this one is based on this is our number 88 this is this war of mine so this war of mine is a survival game your if you look at the videos on this they're gonna tell you all it's depressing miss depressing and it is it is very depressing very often you are you're not doing anything heroic in this game you're deciding between you know so you're basically a survivor you yeah the bombing has happened and it's like post war or a mid war I forget exactly what the scenario is but you're in a building and you have to like just survive and you have to like make tough choices about okay do I go out for food or do I go in and protect this person and go ahead when I open this door I can get you know in green and a cause awful stuff happens I try it's definitely going for it door you don't know what that don't have been come on now a hyper-cardioid much yeah there you go it's it is depressing as all heck but they're actually you've played the app a lot more than the physical game physical game oh my god kinda had a couple of whacks at this but the app I just got get into it like and I'm really appreciate that the co-op genre is opened a story and it's open to telling different stories it's not just the same old kind of hacking slash whatever is think of this I figured I said in a thematic way what legends of Android does for mechanism so it I think legends of andorra is intentionally like appealing to a certain type of crowd and telling a certain type of story with its mechanisms and it's not going to appeal to the wider audience I think of this war of mine as the same way only with the thematics not going to be appeal to the wider audience but for people who do want to enjoy kinda be transported and experience a different kind of story I think this is really really fun so fun this game it is an experience and I really enjoyed it so at is that is my that was on my list not Luke's at my number let's see I got I got a come with a different system than just look at my phone would enjoy it I mean nobody i knows got it I didn't hunt it out I don't think the whole depressing thing would get me too much because it's like well it's a war game what say it's set in that difficult period it's gonna be like that but it's one that I would try I just didn't hunter out specifically I heard like mechanically it was a bit all over the shop or something but basically it was yeah fiddly but fur matically but hey ya know ok so that is this war of mine that was number 53 on my personal list and is number 88 overall we got Luke is up next with a classic in the John reward him a quest the board game distinct distinct from the car game yet I mean it's one it's one of the earlier ones and granted that some stuffs come out that's maybe a bit more mechanically robust but this one you know just does the job for you're a typical dungeon crawl you know I just want to go into a bill go into a dungeon hack and slash stuff from the Warhammer universe which most people are quite familiar way of the orcs the elves and that and it's just a straight-up simple one you know I don't need a hundred rules to say this is how you build your character I don't need 200 rules to say this is how you move and do combat I just want to get in with a character here's some cool stuff I can level up here's the room here's some monsters let's go kill them and you know it's no one this may be a little bit of a nostalgic goggle feel to it maybe but you know it's just one of those old ones a bit like the hero quest you know of games of old where it's just like look straight up symbol there's a get in there hack and slash some classic Warhammer creatures yep that's it it is it is all tech at this point I think if we made this list 15 years ago first of all be a top 10 cooperative games in no way we get to anywhere near hundred second of all we it's it is a it's it's it's difficult you know uh you could plan on the phone like they actually have Warhammer Quest on or your your app or whatever it is just to get want to feel for what that's all about there are better ones there are you can pretty much guarantee that there are a bunch of dungeon crawlers that are a little bit more advanced that are higher on this list yeah so that is Warhammer Quest speaking of dungeon crawler that it's a little bit more advanced this is brand new hotness from last year on my list not on Luke's list and pretty sure it's another one those games it's kind of boutique so it's hard to get to the table everything we're talking too many bones too many bones is number 86 on our list it was on my list around number 55 or so too many bone this is actually a per the opposite actually because the other one wasn't on my list and it was it was on my list at 53 and years wasn't this is the exact opposite for yours 50 here on yours and nor mine this happened that it wants to know what we just got a match up that way yeah so too many bones is it's hard to call it a dungeon crawler because it's not like there's no tiles it plays out on this grid system so if you know chip theory games a lot of the games play out and it's kind of like abstract the map and you're just kind of like moving these chips all over the place but in this one you're you're here really for the character building and then you're gonna fight a technical combat on a little abstract board and then you're gonna build your character again and you build a character with dice so you start off with these dinky little dice and then after you beat every single combat and it's usually like a series of like seven or eight combat before you get to the big boss you will build your character so then you draft more dice so you increase the static an get more based icer you know and you're building your you have tech tree so the tech tree is gonna let you build a certain way so like if you're the bomber you could build healing bombs and you know splat bombs and a single target bombs if you're the the melee guy you can be either defensive or offensive or whatever it is so that's when you're here for you're here for that character crafting stuff it could be higher in my list the one niggle I have it and it's a pretty significant niggle is when you draft these special dice you get to use them once in a combat and if you miss the roll Oh wah-wah oh five it's a look at is a lot it's a bit more randomness that I wanted it to when I build the character I want to really build it up good it's funny because like and maybe they've they've improved this okay you know the it's a new game and it's constantly evolving so it may have undertow just came out and there's more stuff planned for it they may fix this but I just found it more the most effective to hype up on based ice so like you know you get these dice based on your string so you you know you will basic dice and you just keep on rolling I'm rolling rolling I'm I found that more effective than doing the cooler stuff so that's like that's like a no-no when it comes you're there to be awesome so I had so again but it's a really distinct cool a beautiful component another hundred plus dollar game unfortunately but you're but you're really getting a lot of your money's worth it pops on the table it does a lot of cool stuff I can definitely recommend it it just has a little thing that kind of kept me you know from really going at busy I think about it but I still on my list really enjoy it is too many bones are we going back to you for this one next one yes you're going back to you for 65 not on my list defend your putting dead men tell no tales list list go for it this should be our I'm surprised you haven't played this one but this you have played this one is go ahead alright let's go say this if you're gonna get on me for the fun the birds one you're probably thinking the same thing for this you know this is essentially if you took pandemic and mixed it with flashpoint fire-rescue you'd get dead men tell no tales but yeah you're basically going on to a pirate ship you're trying to loot it it's in its engulfed in flames you know no person in their same mind would get on this ship so obviously your captain's been in that case and you're going on and why else would you and not only is it on fire but it's also haunted so you when you're going on you're going into the rooms to try and find the loot they're in treasure chests guard by skeletons that are all over the place so you've got to chop Mack and slash away through them but you've got these dice that you put in the center at each room that does just normal six-sided dice and they sort tick down to the point where they'll explode and unlike in flashpoint Fire Rescue where you've got you know places will explode and you know it just explodes a let's load a fire in here route entire rooms can be destroyed or place it can be blocked off so suddenly your way in has to chop it has to change in order to get back out I know it can be quite a tricky game there is a little bit of you know random listening with a die roll but it's just it looks the part it's got some of the better elements out of both games in one the character abilities are pretty sweet as well the main thing that drops it down this list is mainly that the games can get a little samey over time but also that it can be quite fiddly the whole manipulation of the dice as well as having to remember oh yeah that that's got to generate a bunch of these skeletal deckhands and that's got free that's got to it's got one it can get a little bit too fiddly for my liking for what was otherwise supposed to be quite a simplistic game so yeah I thought it was decent I you know it would be higher if it just was a little bit less fiddly to manipulate everything so there's a coop of coops I put dead men tell no tales in this thing I put the captain is dead from a G also I they gotta come some with a publisher I forget who um a couple of other games in that kind of pool that are solid but like rock-solid games but they don't really move the ball forward like mechanically I understand why companies do it if you got you know pandemics popular I'm gonna produce you know some kind of mix on that and it's gonna be fun and the themes gonna appeal so like I know Ghazi Garcia really likes this game so you can't go wrong with that you know the person who likes coops most on the next hour watch your game boom you're gonna for me I just I I think it's solid I just didn't think it carried forward a lot so in my list maybe this is just revealing a little bit about me I tended towards coops that did funky stuff so I wore did a co-op for that if so like I I will play dead men tell no tales before I will play legends of and or but legends of and or or is a more unique design so I put it a little I gave a little bit more credit than that Davidson notes has a solid good fun I'll play it you know they go I don't want to talk too much I don't want to like talk bad about it you know it's a it's a it's a good game you know so it just did not make my top 100 that is how strong coops are its get out of here having me adjustments and everything but anyway whatever then I said Nintendo tell that is our number 65 64 is mine my number 51 on the ledge 85 85 at 84 not 60 we haven't skipped 20 games oh sorry sorry we have not scared we're not teleporting into the future okay so this is 84 this is tiny epic defenders so tiny epic defenders is a in a tiny epic series is the only co-op in that right now tiny a big zombies is coming out which is also has a co-op mode although I'm hearing that the one verse many mode is the best on that game this game is a tower defense game it is it like it gets knocked for being really simple I could definitely see that but it's it's tiny so that it doesn't get a lot of stuff in there about it I don't have the box because this kick it just kick-started a second edition and an expansion I'm waiting for that and I'm looking for it look really cool so here in capital city and you're gonna draw from a deck and the drug the deck has enemies and basically check assaults the outer realms which are these cards on the outer realms if you let the auto realms go to heck it's a you'll get advanced in this fire meter and then they'll start hitting the capital city so you have to go out to the outer realms cleanse the fire defend against the deck the monsters are coming out eventually you get items of stuff they added the item meatballs in the second edition which I thought I don't know if you guys are aware of the little item meatballs now everything in gameland game has to have my two meatballs in it so cute that they now they have like capes and wings and swords and see really really fun I like this game a lot it gets a bad knock from certain people in a dice tower you don't deserve it not you not you actually have you played this I have yeah and yeah oh no okay well I just said all the good I have more to say but well just just give me the bass that why didn't you like this game so much a lot of bad stuff it just didn't Wow me you know I'm not a fan of these tiny epic games anyway because most of them should not be will ADA not epic and be they're not they shouldn't be tiny it should be bigger games you know everyone Braves over was it tiny epic galaxies and that's literally the equivalent of a cube pusher you're just doing it with really tiny pieces that are hard to manage defenders and you know I haven't tried tiny epic quest I know some people are really going on about that one like the Zelda ripoff but right now I've tried defenders I've done galaxies and it was one other what was the other one the Western Guardians was the first one was the first one defenders with guardian well tiny big kingdoms kingdoms yeah the kingdoms are done in that one yeah exactly that was like a really bad one in there but yeah I've just never been to weld with the the tiny Epic Games I think I think it's too much of a gimmick and there's a lot of these games where it's I oh I've taken this huge game and I've turned it into a tiny little box that doesn't seem to wow when favor with me anyway I mean a another good example eight-minute Empire you know that one the little competitive one literally just here's a row of cards and it should push cubes on this teacher little map it you know I could never get into that one either I just think I get what they're going for is that all we want to try and make this more meaty game in a tiny box but it's like well just give me a meaty game with something a bit more interesting I never really latched on the tiny epics I will say though like now that we have a bunch of them though we have I have a couple back here in the shelf somewhere whatever and I'm getting the defenders as soon as the second edition Kickstarter hits when you put them all in like a little bag you you have like a whole bunch of genres covered like you have your cute bushes covered you have a cooperative covered you have your little area control covered you have your you know puzzle the adventure touch thing covered like so you can get all that in a little tiny go bag and be good for like a family game night I went like I wouldn't make this a centerpiece of like now a gamer ease game matter if like that because you know they're all bringing they don't care that they're toting their giant chocolate shells there's a car let's play viticulture people you're doing you're there for like you know for that variety your hair for that you know like little bit of like I just wanted to pushing cubes want to think too hard about I wanted to have a little bit of fun this one the co-operative game in terms of tower defense I mean I don't know a lot of like tower defenses that I can take places like tower defense games tend to be the giant big - duze so this one that kind of shrinks it down a little bit makes a little more portable I guess I I rate the portability a little bit higher than you do i but I still enjoy it like they are gate there's some tiny if it games I like some sunny at the games I don't this is what Matt I do like so that is tiny epic thumb kingdoms the film is closed or whatever it is sorry defenders okay so next up is me this is my number 683 that's your fix our rebels your 49 yes our 83 to be varied your 83 as well you're the one who's played it the The Dresden Files cooperative car bus you haven't played this no I don't know even watched it was based on a TV show right oh how dare you oh sorry it was a book with you books I don't read a lot you know what the bookshelf in the background I don't read a lot yeah most of those most of that is either accountancy stuff doc you like my personal documents you know like bills and stuff or recipe books so if you got a cookie game when you're less than great but we got a cooking game coming up don't you worry about that I don't mix group okay so this is the Dresden Files cooperative cardio this was a day one back for me this was a Kickstarter that launched diving last year delivered last year so it's based on a book series The Wizard detective Harry Dresden it did it was a TV show the TV show was terrible that's why I like waving the finger it was on the wall it's almost a TV show okay fair enough I know it's over yeah and the author was like oh I'm sorry I ever did that I was sold it I you know whatever I'd never regret every minute of that Wow and then cash so whatever look for it so okay so it's an adventure kind of Paul Paul urban fantasy book series so every book it's with Harry having adventures against you know so he's injured Cabo it's not like a fantasy world like that so it's like he's in Chicago he's fighting demons and monsters and all sorts of other nonsense there's like a case per week case per book type thing this game is not like you would think this game will be like a Rock'em Sock'em game and I kind of thought that it's really kind of a puzzle game so you have a bunch of cars laid out in front of you and the cards represent different thing scenes that happen in the books and you have to kind of like use your personal cards and everybody's are on the table to solve quote-unquote solve the case or defeat the monster whatever it is and it's very puzzler like I don't want to get into that but it's a because it's actually an app for me just drop the app in there and take a look at it very positively very like ok I go then you go to the you go the you go and then I need this you need this and what you're gonna play this and I'm gonna play this and you know just figure that puzzle out and then you know you have to kill as many kills a certain number of creatures and solve a number of cases I really like it it is I probably it's higher solo for me but as a cooperative game has a limited information thing with Trier I'd never found a game that really does limited information like quite right because you could say this we can't say that you say what you have in your hand you can't see the exact not values you have in your hand so it's like I can do that oh just trust me not a huge the whole shadows of a capital fade I was like um I can help you with a bit I hope are you sure you can help me yeah yeah I got you I got you baby not asbestos not maybe not all of you but I've got most of you is this is not how humans communicate people you go on a team a worker as we say oh I got this thing I'm gonna take care this problem this server how you gonna do that with this thing don't worry it's like no that's not gonna work but this has that problem people don't find it a problem whatever it is I still think it's a really cool puzzle and it has a lot of a great theme has a lot of the great images from the book so you can like play like individual books and everything that is a Dresden Files cooperative card game I really really enjoy that one so here we go with our first non pure co-op on the list and this is something that Luke put on there yes our first one and you don't have that I was actually looking to check out that one but yeah probably you know I probably say this is the first one we only have about six of them dude I don't know what make it a big deal for so then the first one actually not on my list I enjoy this game I enjoyed another game similar similar to it a little bit more this is fury of Dracula so this is a little bit higher me list number 47 actually yeah that's pretty hot yeah so yeah what do you enjoy about this game the strong theme for one I mean it definitely feels like Dracula with all the hunters and that and I can see where people will come from they'll say well that's not a full co-op it's all versus one well technically a co-op is all versus the game so I mean you're just doing all versus a player and the majority of the players are working cooperatively you've just got a human opponent as opposed to an AI and I've never considered that co-op simply requires an AI opponent to work but it would fury a Dracula it is just pure theme in the box you can teach most of this game by theme alone without even referring to mechanics but granted I don't want to play this with too many players you know free is a very good sweet spot for it's not too bad 5 yeah no there forever but I like the way that this game evolves with the hidden movement because Dracula is constantly trying to stay hidden but to begin the game with he's trying to sort of set himself up get his other vampires up and going his layers up and running and he's kind of hunting the hunters to say that oh yeah I'm quite powerful now you know you barely know where I am I'm gonna strike you down and then as the game develops it kind of almost is a role reversal where you know suddenly Dracula's a bit weakened now the hunters are going after Dracula and he's on the run it's long it's longer than most games I would prefer but the theme we're talking with two plus hours yeah you're talking easily over two hours in two to three hours it's a long game and normally I'm not the biggest fan of games that go on too long but when you're Dracula its tenses or get out because you know everyone's commenting on that he's probably sitting over there Great Britain in his right Oh over there and you know you can plan your moves you've got the little bit of a combat element looks gorgeous aren't working no Feraud edition looks great it's is it's one of those like is probably the most formatic all the hidden movement games that I'm aware of probably yeah probably out of all all them in a sense but does they saw the Dracula theme very tense very immersive as you're going along nice bit of combat each character plays out differently like for the hunters Dracula is playing a very different style of game but he's got different options available you're like oh I can play these special cards or I can do this extra movement it makes it it works for me as one of the longer hidden movement games that I'll put up with mainly because the theme is so immersive and yet there's no lone ranger you're all working together here you know if you don't work together Dracula just gets away yeah or he ganks that person and versus in there going oh so I own this game I really enjoy this game I only have two hang-ups and a pretty minor that particular to me one it's too long I think two plus hours is just way too long to be sitting there - I'm just not a big fan of the Dracula theme I'd prefer like different themes this is not the only one vs.

mini game on here there's gonna be some more looking forward to but I still own it I'll still play it I think it's really good that is cool fear of grechka are you looking forward to the 4th edition from with kids don't know I'll hang on to the first version say whiz kids really know all right not unless they shorten it unless they find some way to cut the length in half maybe I'll give it a look but if it's literally a straight-up reprint probably not yeah I guess all right so uh so this is the last game that we're gonna talk about in this video we're gonna break this up into sections of 20 I think how long are we on this video you have to be over an hour probably I know right yeah section of 20 s probably a good start yeah 20 is a good cutoff point okay so this is my particular thing I don't know if you even heard this part of the door yeah okay you've heard of it okay so here we go this is my number 46 I really think highly of this game this is the dwarves in German and it's DS verga I think I'm just um please come at me German people come at me for pronunciation so this is based on also another game based on a novel series this the these workers very popular novel series have it really appeared too much engine but I was kind of looking into it it seems like indicate you've constructed a really cool missiles for it very kind of at that German Sensibility you know the doors are not very nice people they're like happy jolly whistling whatever it is you know these dorms are like you know political and you know backstabber II and all that kind of stuff this particular game the dwarves another pandemic take off what I like what they did here was the disease cubes quote-unquote that they're like the elves and orcs so they've represented by races and they are animated much more smartly than pandemic pandemic you pull a card and just like you know hey what's where's this leather cube come from in this game they say they're gonna populate the board but they spread out along the different tracks so you can definitely get that sense of invasion and your hero as opposed just kind of going and treating a cube it's has to roll the dice and it has to you know defeat the monster and gear up and you specialize and also they also means to even some other stuff that's particular to adventure games like skill checks and craft checks and you have missions and side quests I think it's a really if you're gonna do adventure like pandemic defenders of the realm not gonna spoil whether it's on this list or not tried to do that adventure pandemic I think it okay not gonna spoil that the dwarves really did a good job adventure of venture Isaac pandemic added a whole bunch of stuff a lot of narrative like you know they have this also this influenced track you can read this side quest so much stuff here too like sorry that it hasn't gotten more availability but if you can try to copy down I really do recommend the dwarves yeah barely see this one around and I mean you'll combo king G's rank over 2000 so it's like practically nobody is heard of this one that and the main reason I haven't sought out those cuz one problem I mean it isn't so much of a problem with a competitive game but with a co-op I'm more about the immersion of the co-op particularly so femen immersion means a lot more to me then NIC's for a co-op but when you base a game on an intellectual property for a competitive game it's not the end of the world you know if you like the mechanics enough you'll probably still get into it well the female I like with a co-op because I want to immerse myself in the Corp if I've never heard of the intellectual property it's gonna be harder for me to get into it why I never saw out Dresden Files and it's why I barely even glanced at this one when I saw like it's barely ranked I don't know what the dwarfs are you know go with it but then as we get further up the list you're gonna see some IPS that I absolutely adore and naturally that's gonna affect my liking of a particular co-op yes this man is blinded by IPs we'll get to that I'm not blinded by IPS but like I say she means a lot to me in games anyway so that is the dwarf that's a really good one go ahead and I wake and it's not just good for the theme-wise cuz it's you know I don't know too much about it myself I think was really solid mechanism wise to tell the good story and led me into that world I like the scheming you know dwarves and these other races that are like you coming into a raid and stuff so really good game I like it so that is yeah that's gonna do it that is our bottom 20 80 to 100 only one sort of thing we may have a couple of more but we're not gonna have that many more so ya know have a couple but yeah a lot a lot of coops a lot of peer coops coming up for ya the games will get better and better so we are going to sign off of this episode hopefully you liked it and stay tuned for that I'm looking forward to like when we get later on as I'm just looking for it on my phone now when I mean obviously in the bottom bit we got more of those games where I've played it you haven't and vice-versa so when we get into the next list that's not gonna be the case for too many of them but there'll be a few more of those although I'm noticing some higher ranked ones on each side so it's probably gonna be a bit boring I look forward when we gives you a 6 when we get to 60 plus though you know these are games where if you haven't played it then you know there's that or maybe there's an argument as to whether you think it's co-op or not but we're definitely gonna get into I think more of the blatantly just don't like it was arguments we get to 60-plus yeah this is the next cluster of games is going to be games that either of us love but the other one hasn't played so this would be like even more kind of hidden gem type things yeah and then once we get into the top half of the list it'll be games that either we both like like or one of us likes it another one hates it or something there's gotta be some valence question - alright looking forward to it I see you guys next time guys [Music] [Applause] [Music] you