Ranking Vital Lacerda Games

0:00 however my name is Bonnie and I'm Naveen from before we play and today we are going to finally discuss the summary of our batalla sorta series so if you're in utero channel and have no idea what I'm talking about we played through all seven of the tallest artists major releases in chronological order from start to finish up starting with the V nose in your audition and ending with on Mars and we did it over a course of a few months actually first of all the experience was quite an experience it was fun you know it was a lot harder we do was gonna be hard yes but it was a lot harder than we thought it was even harder for me I only won one of seven games Monique won six well that's not how it worked in practice yeah he actually won a lot more during practice yeah but that's part of it like when the quarantine hit everything kind of slowed down we thought that we would be able to finish it in like two months max and ended up stretching for much longer it did yeah I took a lot of a lot of late nights filming a lot of hours editing but it's done yeah because for each game we would we had it played all of them before yes going into this right but then we wanted to go in there and play him again to clean up make sure we knew every single rule as best as we could actually with the exception of on Mars when we started the series we had never played it technically yes when we started the series we had not played on Mars yeah played it a couple times leading up to that time in there yeah and the timeline yeah so that was know stuff having to learn it and then figure out how to strategically play it and then present

1:30 it it was a big challenge but it's done and before we continue we do want to just say thank you to everybody who followed along if you watched every single video well that's amazing even if you just caught one thank you so much thank you especially to mr. patella sorta himself and the whole reason why we did this in the first place is because he is my personal favorite board game designer and we you know whenever we put out a video he was in the comments section writing some thoughts and being very supportive very supportive so thank you to you know tool as well and some of the tallest siRNAs designing partners and you know games and eco Gryphon games so big thank you to everybody so before we give our final rankings we thought it would be kind of fun to hand out some superlatives so we have a listener are you ready yes I think so okay best artwork if we're talking about the box cover I think on Mars bored bored do two second chance Oh Camille is by lisboa is pretty cool board artwork easiest to teach escape plan videos videos yeah yes hardest to teach maybe co2 I would say this boy lisboa yeah yeah best theme for me is Lisboa I'd say co2 yeah most different / unique probably escape plan most different escape plan most unique in feel the gallerists no lesbo lesbos for sure most complicated numbers easiest to start with escape plan I

3:00 agree escape plan is probably the easiest but I would want them to start with the videos with the banker without the thing with the bank with the video and last but not least the best at to the best gaming experience for people playing two-player games pink I'm gonna say CLG whoa I think I will say coz two-player co-op yes I would say this boss lisboa his boss scales really well and it's just such a good clean design I think that was it for that yeah if you can think of any or if you had any questions yeah other categories for something we didn't think of then go ahead and write in the comments below and we will get back to you we'll try to address those and finally we are going to rank them are you ready yes I think so I have my list on my cellular device so we not talked about these with each other no yeah we have not discussed this so this is gonna be news to each other there are seven games and we are going to start with number seven now when we when we rank these we gotta first say that we like each and every one of these games so yeah like one game is look bad or anything like that wouldn't you put them writing we're taking into consideration complexity how clean up a design is it how easy it is to get in and out of the game one factor the fun factor is it easy to teach is it easy to learn the experience as a whole let us start with number seven I'll say number seven is escape plan for aa great game fun game it's the one kind of outlier game of this and I think that's maybe why it's at number seven for me yeah I still have a

4:32 great time playing it I like playing it a lot I think I like it best at three players Oh three I think so number my number seven was also asked a plan what a surprise it's for the same reasons I really I enjoy ask a plan I would probably prefer to not play that too so it is definitely just the most different design like you were mentioning in the actual video if you're really into his traditional designs this is the one that is the most not like the others but it's still really fun it's a great game yeah it is number six Monique my number six is co2 cooperative version co2 co-op yes if it's if we're talking co2 competitive that might be every seven well that might be number seven for you co2 competitive is just so easy to lose and like you get this whole game setup you're like you're enough to play and then it's getting walloped yes no but co2 co-op is really fun it's like really fun to try to figure out this like really intense puzzle together what is your number six number six for me is Venus whoa yeah I like I like being us okay woah sort of defending I awarded we know so many superlatives you did I like Venus it's a great game I think that is other designs are better sure yeah this is the first one so this is this is was

6:03 his launching point yeah exactly so that's fair for me after playing vino several times there's kind of a predictable pattern or strategy that I see in the game and that's having multiple vineyards where some of the vineyards are producing lesser quality grapes I think it's called quality I can remember there's two different categories value in quality and you then would want to spend those to take those extra actions with those what are those people at the very top yeah the magnate the magnates yeah so I see that that's kind of like the way to go so I guess because my brain thinks that way it then puts Venus like lower yeah exactly the question is what if everybody did that well yeah of course that's that's the case so then you got a I'm not trying to change your game number five number five for me is Kanban Oh oh my gosh yes convo I'm gonna gasp but every one of your choices it's a great game I love the game yes yes oh okay it's a fantastic game it's actually really fun at - I think this this game does play very well at - for that superlative I debated yes Kanban or this Kanban I know I said co2 but now I'm thinking about it more it's like me maybe Kanban that - is really really good the way Sandra moves around you can play mean Sandra or nice Sandra more about manipulating your way around Sandra I think that's really really cool with it with that and goes figure my number five was Venus five well to be fair I feel

7:38 like the higher numbers the higher rankings are gonna be heavily weighted towards his you know newer designs cuz they know as he designs he just thinks of these like new or more innovative ideas sure I'm just gonna be like cooler and cooler I felt but Venus was number five I love being a sigh I try to introduce people to his designs with eNOS because if you like it so it's how he brought it to the world you just to understand in my opinion yeah besides escape plan right but yeah I feel like it fit right in there number five okay and number four for you my number four was the gallerist okay so this is where we have a crossover I also think the gallery oh it's my number four as well okay so I hotly debated between the gallerist and vinos okay like those two positions were kind of only because vinos I I appreciate I appreciate veneers a lot and the gallerist it took me some time to warm up to it I think if we hadn't played it as many times as we did to prepare for this series I then the others probably be lower on my list because I felt like the more I played it the more hood that kind of like Ryan and vineos the bottom track and like really the strategy starts to become a lot with the influence the implant I see okay that little pink track at the bottom yeah yeah I I the galleries is also for for me like I said I think it's a really really cool design with you got the four areas and then you get the kicked out

9:09 actions I really like that element at the kicked out actions if you can place your meatballs around the board you can just take passive actions you know and it's really really good in a two-player game and that is that can be brutal against your opponent because you're constantly going two to one on them I think you did that to me that was really good it was also the first design that I saw that I was like whoa the artwork that works incredible because it came after Kanban yes and you know you look at the current edition of what come not the drivers edition but though it's the first one that came out and it's just like a busy board the the art style hadn't changed over to what it is now right so the gallery was definitely you know when I first saw it the most beautiful board game I had ever seen it was elevated yeah that year I thought it really changed my view as to how visual design could look like in board games yeah yeah definitely elevated it first all right we are getting there was that number four that was four yeah okay so number three naveen number three for me is the last three right kind of blurring yeah it is oh I hate to say it is on Mars well you want to do shocking I thought that his ranking was gonna be different but yeah I like autumn ours a lot it's a really really good game it is number one it's it's a great game

10:42 but it is just so hard for me to figure out sometimes where to get points and getting my engine going this is like he said this is probably his first engine building game you would call it yeah okay yeah partial engine building and I just I I struggle off the beginning to get my my engine my machinery going with identifying which cards are gonna work well together and that's like yes he yes like he struggles with figuring out like oh those cards are gonna work together I'm gonna get them both and then I'm gonna get this and that that's kind of it's all laid out for you there too which is hard because I should be able to be like that scientist that card let's make it work do not do it for some reason in that game cuz I'm like oh but those resources over there I should probably pick some of those that's along the way I empty the whole resource box I try to do that one time though isn't doesn't work out yeah don't ever do that yeah than you my number three is Kanban so Kanban was my first entry you know it was inserted right yeah somebody said oh you like worker placement game she should try Kanban and I thought okay this is like the first year that I started with true getting into bottom board gaming and nobody had it so I what I want on Amazon or someplace I just bought it and was like okay let's learn this game and I learned it in my mind exploited so that was the beginning of this whole journey so it does hold a special place it's a good game for me

12:14 there's a reason why it's been redone with the drivers edition they're gonna release the Kanban Eby you know there's a reason why it keeps on appearing because it is such a fantastic design and that is also why is one of his older designs but it has maintained such a high position on my list the new ones coming out too yeah so oh I love it number two number two number two for me is co2 that co-op nothing about there was only two options like my I know all my predictions for your list we're wrong but that one makes sense to me co2 co-op okay four so I like co-op games it is extremely thumb attic what you're doing in the game you're problem-solving throughout the whole game you trying to work together you have a hidden secret agenda that you are not allowed to disclose in the game and everybody the entire teams win depends on everybody being able to six we complete their secret hidden agenda so if one of you fail that everybody fails okay co2 co-operative is a very fun very fun version of that game so it's a puzzle first of all in the beam a lot of his co-op games yeah yeah second of all the first time we truly played that game in full co-op we finished it a novena wet whoa yeah yeah that is so good that is such a good game he was talking about it for days it was

13:46 yeah yeah I mean it is really good the co-op mode for that game is excellent because like like me being said it is co-op Lasorda so it had it does not lose any of the complexity or the crunchiness in decision-making but at the same time everybody has a private objective it's not like other games where everything is kind of on the table or other cooperative games where it's pretty much just about putting out fires just gonna go back and forth and right pushing cubes around and meeting objectives they're picking things up it's not like that you have to truly strategize to build these you know yeah pollution their game power plan the game can beat you lack of coordination with your team can beat you and you can fail as an individual and the team can go down as well so I mean it's really really really good I think the reason why it wasn't higher on my list is because it has too much of a luck element in terms of winning or losing with the way that the pollution comes out yeah like it was designed to be extremely difficult yeah so you could just get some really unfortunate draws at position and just lose from that but that's that's how it goes and this is co-chief second chance by the way never play original so yeah we should have mentioned that earlier but we've this co2 is always co2 second chance yeah so that was my number two yours my number two was I debated this

15:16 for a very long time because these two were just kind of neck and neck for me my number two my number one my number two you ended up being Marrs yeah it is so good I love on Mars so much that I can play it every day for a week and not get tired of it but it is just so complicated definitely the most complicated taxi sorta you it's complicated to teach to learn to figure out it's not impossible so do not let me just detract you from playing this game because that's why Springs so high it's an excellent excellent game if you can if you can power through it and like just just tell yourself I'm gonna learn this game and I'm gonna figure out this game you won't regret it it's excellent but because of that kind of difficulty in getting it to the table and like teaching it to new players etc it okay it's it's great game and finally number one well it's the one that we both have not said yet oh yeah that's lisboa yeah such a good game I've seen a lot of people kind of in the comments especially for that video kind of agreeing with why we can both agree this game is number one and it's because of how clean and elegant of a design that is you take a card and you play it yeah

16:48 yeah you choose one card from grand plan do this stuff take a card and that's it that's your turn after you play the card you make a lot of decisions yeah and it's all laid out for you on the table managing that hand yeah the ability to curate what your hand is with those those four different stacks of cards but that's also the game timer being able to follow and you're right time yeah using the influence track manipulating that is resource as well Treasury yeah so much so much to talk about with this boy that we've probably already talked about in the video timing in that game is excellent yeah but it isn't just such a clean design the thing that that really put it as number one is the fact that it's just such a clean design it's like a look it's a masterpiece it could be hard to top that one yeah that's good and that's it that was our full ranking we would love to hear what your ranking is yeah please so let us know in the comments what your favorites are did you disagree with our superlatives you know these are not a right or wrong kind of thing it's all up to what people really are subjective opinions yeah so if you would love to share we would love to hear about it so that is the end of the sort of series it is not at the end for the sort of games No there is a new filler there is no yeah it's coming out called Mercado that is a thinkI filler otherwise we know that Kanban EB is coming out and we've heard of fatale kind of teasing some

18:18 ideas about likely game about whether yes again about whether I've heard also he is discussing a co-op variant to escape escape plan our co-op expansion may be to escape plan which is like a bank heist yeah from what I understand there was going to be the Queen's expansion for Elizabeth that's know and that's coming out later this year so keep an eye out for that thank you so much for watching that's us we are done with the last 30 series but we are going to continue with a designer series or just like a categories of games in the future so keep an eye out for that and thank you so much for watching and don't forget if you guys like content like this and would like to see more please consider subscribing you