Top 5 Games to Restart the Collection
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Some viewers may find the following video disturbing. Viewer discretion is advised. Hey everyone, welcome back to Board Games Unlocked and Brad and I are doing our top five What was it? Games to restart It was uh games to restart our collection. That's it. Um Yeah, so this one was an interesting list. Uh I think the way that I went about it So it's like if our entire collection were to go up in flames and we didn't and we didn't off ourselves. We didn't unalive, you know. Um you know, what games would we pick to restart? Now, I took this a step further in kind of that same desert island scenario where if you only take five games to a desert desert island, what would they be?
Because [clears throat] in my mind, if I lose all this Right. I'm out of the hobby. Right. I'm not I'm there's that would be so much lost money that it wouldn't be worth it. I would just find something else to do. Uh so, but if I did the five the six with the honorable mention, but the five games uh are the ones that I kind of felt would be the only games I would go go out and get. I
I took it. I did it as these would be a good start. Like like if I had a chunk of money, you know, just to get six games to start off with and and kind of have those six games for a while before I started thinking about rebuilding. Um and we I think we both agreed that we were not doing like we're not going to do like an LCG because it has all the content. Like we're just doing like just the core game. Like if you just went to Miniature Market or or some game local game store and bought just like a core game of whatever is. Um that's what we had to take into account with this. Um I took into account re-playability with a big one.
Oh, yeah. Just because you you know, you don't want to pick a game that have re-playability cuz then it's just going to be you know
Yeah. Yeah, that's
easy. That yeah, that's essentially all I took into account was if if like again, if I only had five games to play for the foreseeable future, I don't want to get tired of one of them immediately. So re-playability was huge. And yeah, like Brad said, we're only doing core games. So cuz otherwise it would be Arkham Horror, Marvel Champions Right. Right. Right. Exactly.
Um they they just allow for that amount of content. It essentially I guess this could also be like a top five lifestyle games. Uh if we were to take into consideration expansions. Right. Right. Right. Right. That like a lot of the games benefit from that. And what was interesting about this is I found out the industry really benefits from having a ton of expansions. It made me look at games differently. Whenever I looked at them I'm like, "Man, this game is in my top 10. Oh wait, I actually don't like it if I only have the base game."
Exactly. Yeah, they um people have done this kind of a list before, you know, this I think cuz I may have brought this idea to you a while back. Um a couple of podcasts I listened to had done this, but one of them got like really strict and they're like, "Okay, you can pick five games, but you have 250 bucks." Oh, total.
Yeah, total to to to spend. So it's like what five games would you get? So mine's not going to be would not make that dollar amount, but but uh you know, it's it is what it is at this point, but it's Yeah, it's I tried to I don't know. I tried to go a little bit different styles of games even though I didn't really end up that way at the end. Like when I made my list of 20, I had like, okay, this one's my you know, my uh tile ba- tile laying game. This is my 1 v 1. This is but then I I kind of put that aside when I started trying to painstakingly reduce it down to our six. Um
Yeah, exactly.
You know. Um I did not, but I also I was hesitant to do this one because you would naturally think just grab our top five. We just finished our top 100. Oh, the five games I get are the top five. That's not actually the case at all uh for the very reason that I threw in was it had to be base game. Um That was mainly it. Yeah, one one of these one of these games is in my top five. Uh same
Just the ba- just the base game. The other rest of them are probably in my top 100 or will be in my top 100.
All of these are in my top one. Actually, one of them is not, funny enough, but all the rest of them are in my top one top 100. Um All right, well, without any preamble,
[clears throat]
Brad, kick us off with your or honorable mention. How many crossover you think we got? Zero?
I could see maybe two. Two, interesting.
Maybe two. Maybe. It just depends cuz like this is such a hard list to make. So, it just depends on what how important you took certain things and stuff, but
And as we've been finding out lately, you and I have kind of drastic taste in games that we kind of value. I know we share co-op. Like that's like our big thing, but if it comes to like not necessarily It's not that we dislike each other's games. Um it's more of what we're going out to buy. What we're backing lately is is different. Which I guess that kind of works since we're so we're not backing the same crap unless it's co-op stuff.
That's All right. Well, honorable mention.
All right. My honorable mention is um and these are kind of in order. Also kind of of how I would probably How fast you'd go out and buy it.
I am. So, this would be the one I would, you know, obviously of the six it would be the kind of the last one I would buy out of the deals possibly. I mean, they're they're so close. It's hard to say, but but anyway, so my number six is the one that was in my top five. Um and that is Burn Cycle. Oh, interesting.
I I picked this because there's a lot of play in that game.
Oh, I was like, why not Too Many Bones? Expansion. Expansion. Right. So, there's so much in this base game box. Um because there are expansions for this, but they're not necessarily big expansions, you know, like like most of the characters you're going to play with are in this, most of the all the corporations, all the different stuff with this game. Um yeah, you don't have the brass mag stuff, but you don't need to have that stuff. I mean, it's uh And with the all the combinations of the of the robots you can play and having the the the the module um robot and all that different different stuff like this has a lot of replayability um as far as stuff goes. And that's one of the big things I picked. Um uh cuz you can play you can play it solo, co-op, you know, it's it's just kind of one of those games that has kind of a And and it's and it's a a challenging game, so you kind of get to, you know, it's not a not a simple one, so you're don't won't get bored with it because the missions are a lot or you know, really different. Yeah.
And there's a lot of different things to manage in the game, so uh So, yeah. I mean, that's the main reason I picked it. I mean, with the
Nice. having the stealth aspect and having, you know, each of the corporations having their own different like, you know, that threat track type deal and stuff. It just changes the game so much when you do different things. Um and this is where I'm kind of benefit it benefits cuz the building layout's the same with every corporation, but the missions are so different and there's a nice big stack of them that you can you can play through, too. Um This is a good pick. I didn't consider it um cuz I found myself a lot of the games I was thinking of initially were all co-op. Right.
like, I don't I don't want to only have co-op games on my list, even though that's primarily what I would pick. Yeah.
I I wanted to have a few competitive games. Right.
So, I kind of ignored Chip Theory. Right.
one I kept looking at cuz I I've been recently playing it. I played a [ __ ] ton of it uh like just the other day is Cloudspire. And I threw that one away cuz I'm like, well, you want all the factions, core game only has four, even though that's a game that would benefit from repeat play. But for some reason, I was like, Cloudspire's out, so everything Chip Theory is out. Well, I kind of I kind of considered Elder Scrolls, too. This is my only Chip Theory. Yeah.
I kind of thought of Elder Scrolls cuz there is a lot of play in that core game, too.
Yeah. Um but I kind
probably more play in Elder Scrolls
There is. I I I just went with this because it's it's a little more it's different, you know, like like I have other fantasy games on my list that, you know, and then and so this one's kind of it that fits that sci-fi aspect. And I will tell you right now, I have one competitive game on this. Only one, interesting.
Everything else is co-op because I'm primarily a so I'm primarily a solo player or you know,
Sure.
stuff like that. So, um
Yeah, it's funny. You only You like you play a [ __ ] ton of solo games, but they're all co-op. You don't have many solo variant Euro games um that you play. It's cuz the overhead. It sucks having to learn the game and then also learn the how the solo variant works. I've I've been actually getting into a lot more like the the only game that's on this list is a Euro and it's it's got a good solo and stuff, too, but but um but yeah, we'll get into that. But yeah, that's my number six is Burn Cycle. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. My number six was originally higher on this list, but then as I thought about it, it has a a ton of [ __ ] in it. Uh and it's actually one that would fit it really well in that guy's budget of 250. Right. But it it hopped to my honorable mention because if I was to only have these five games, like I said, I did the strict these are it. Um I can see myself eventually getting a little bit tired of it, but that would take a lot of plays.
And that is Vantage. That was on my on in my 20 that I was.
Got you. Yeah. It got kind of got whittled out. Yeah. Sure. Uh Vantage definitely has the the benefit of being an affordable game with so much discoverability in it. Uh after my interview that I did with Jamie, I I did a subsequent run through with it uh just to accommodate the interview. Had done a run through. You and I did our discussion for it. And it went so poorly for me. But because I was in this comple like my mission for it was it was radically different from any that I've ever had. Where I was was making it very difficult to achieve. And I found that fascinating. Probably not in the in the moment. I was probably more pissed that I couldn't figure it out.
But in hindsight, I'm like, that is so cool that you can have the same mission go either really well or really badly just depending on where you drop. The amount of content that's in this game of discovering stuff, of reading stuff, of the routes you're going to take, the world you're discovering. I mean, I've played this game quite a bit. And it's always something new. Yeah.
And I've come across things that I've seen before either in games that we've played or, you know, previous games that I vaguely remember coming across. I'm like, I think I think I've seen this flower before, but you interact with it differently. Right.
And that just causes a chain of events that it's it still blows my mind even having interviewed Jamie to kind of understand the process of how this was made. Yeah, cuz
Wow. cuz you and I when we did we played, you know, before our our review thing of it. There was that whole path thing, you know, that I'm not going to spoil too much, but there's that one path where you started here you had to do the path, right? I played I played again with like Fletcher and those guys and we came across that same path, but it was on the other side. Yeah.
And you and you had you see, you know, so it's like you come across it from the other side then you have you're going the other way, you know, it's like it's just interesting, huh? And there's like I get there's in-game games. Like apparently there's like a a Gwent a Gwent type card game that's that's in it somewhere.
I haven't either. I've came across I've came across two puzzles Yep.
in the game. And then I've come across a tournament is uh so it was fascinating is uh I asked or Jamie asked me what any type of complaints that I have for the game and I was like, well, you know, I kind of wish that you could fail at stuff. You know, you don't always get to do what you want to do. Not that you roll badly and then you don't get to do it, but maybe it forces you down a different path. Um but cuz I always kind of felt that being able to do everything made it easy. And my cut last couple games have been brutal in terms of managing the the morale and the health and stuff. So yeah, I think this game has so much legs to it that it it just had to be on this list.
Stegmaier cursed you. That's what he did.
He might have, yeah. He's like, "Oh, it's too easy, huh?" Just went home and made a voodoo doll of me.
Yep.
But yeah, so that's my honorable mention. Yeah, that's a good choice. Like I said, I think it was probably like a at my like 10, nine or 10 on this list. It was close to making it, but Yeah. All right, so my number five, this is my one competitive game. It's also a Euro. Um this hit my list this year cuz it just came out in 2025. Um and uh it's Shackleton Base. Ooh. I've not played this one. And I picked this because most Euros, you know, you have there's maybe some variable setups, different stuff like that. What I what gives this the replayability is every game's going to be different because there's seven corporations available in the base game. There's an expansion coming out that's supposed to add more corporations, which is awesome. Just adds to more possibilities. But every game you're going to randomly pick three of those corporations, and that sets how the game's going to be played.
So, the game changes by what three corporations that you pick. So, it's that just right there just gives you know, the replayability because every game's going to be different. You're going to be you're going to be more focused on this resource or that resource or or doing this or that, you know, and so um and this one, like I've s- I've said this, you know, in other videos, that this one kind of was the one that uh struck me over Galactic Cruise and SETI. Um even though those are great games, this one's the one I enjoyed better than those. Um and it's it's a it's a an awesome game. I mean, you're you have all these different actions to do. Those actions will change for the corporations as well. Um and you know, we've played I think I've played it oh, probably four four or five times now and it's just totally different. Like I try I you teach the corporations cuz like I have to learn cuz I haven't even played. There's one corporation I haven't even played yet because of the randomization.
Um so it's just like it's just interesting how they went through that, you know, it's so it's kind of different from a lot of Euros in that way. So are these the corporations over here on the right? They are They are the Mist Tours. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. There's and then there's the uh that picture. Go to left. Yeah, yeah, there's all those different different locations and stuff. Yeah.
Okay. Yep, yep. So um so yeah, I mean it's it's an interesting setup with that, you know, and everything how things go how the different resources that'll be available, all that different stuff. But um what's going to be cool is when that expansion comes out here in a couple months. Um I don't know how many how many it's going to add. Um let me look here real quick cuz I think
you can't have the expansion. You you get to live with these boring ass seven corps.
That's actually quite a bit for a base game, too.
three more corps. So it'll it'll be 10. So
round number there. It's pretty hot. Um and yeah, this one's one you got to play sometime. Uh I know. I want to play this one. Um this uh cuz I've played Galactic Cruise and Settlers almost made my list as well. Settlers more than Galactic Cruise, but ultimately since it's not going to be in the five, it did not. Um but this one this one I do want to I want to play for that very reason of I like I like the the option of throwing in Oh, [ __ ] of of variable setup makes uh which I mean cuz that's why Euros were so hard for me to um put on this list because not a lot of them have replayability.
Not that they're bad, but you your replayability is oh, I might have a different card at the beginning. Oh. Well, and they can get figured out like early on. You know, it you got it got figured out. You know, there's all these So, this one I haven't found it there's not a one way to wins the game, you know, kind of type thing. It just changes all the time and it's it's a good one. Yeah, that's a good point. I might pick this one up. I might just take your word for it that it's good. It's I mean, yeah. It's it's super good. Like Nice. It just has that that kind of it factor for me. I I don't know how to really explain it, you know, I just it just vibed with me pretty good. Good deal. All right, my number five was a game that you had brought up in our previous top 10 that I had not considered, but as I was looking at my collection, I'm like you want to talk about replayability in a competitive game, this one is definitely up there. And that is Small World.
Oh, yes. Yeah.
Small World um just has I mean, the the the core concept of the game is so simple and that you're just getting points for how how however many regions do you control. But the replayability even in the core box is virtually unlimited. Cuz you have different races. I'm trying to see if I can find a picture. Well, here's a picture of of some of the races. So, you have these races, but every single one of them has their own ability. But then you pair that with another ability and all of that is completely variable. It's It's a stack of both that you just shuffle and then they randomly come out.
Whether or not it's balanced, it's not, but the the the insane thing about this game is the fact that if it's a really good ability, it doesn't match it doesn't give you a ton of tokens. So, while you might be really good for a while with with powers, you will eventually run out and you have to put them into decline. I think that's the balancing balancing aspect. Oh, perfect. This is a perfect picture. So, yeah. I don't know I can't remember what these are called, but yeah, so these are the races. These are like the skills. So, Yeah. Um I mean, I couldn't tell you what these are off the top of my head, but I know like the hills give you an extra point for each hill you control and then the skeletons do something. So, this hill ability could go with any faction from the core game. And whether that makes it better or worse for some factions, who knows? But eventually it's going to come to a point where it keeps getting skipped, so you might just grab it because it has eight points on it.
Um So, yeah, the the core game of Small World It It's funny. It made me think are modern games I guess you had the 2025 one that had some good variability, but it feels like modern games might now rely heavily on the expansions that come with it cuz I was looking at some games and I'm like, "Man, that's not really good unless you have a million expansions accompanying it." Yeah. Small World came out in 2009.
Yeah, it's old school, but man, it it uh Yeah. It It does its job. That's for dang sure. Funny enough, this one should honestly be higher for me now I'm looking at it cuz I think this is a picture of how many races and and special powers are in the core box. Yeah, there's I don't even know what the what the combination like count of that would be, you know, it's like it's pretty
Don't you just Don't you just times them together? So, 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 14 * 20 Is that right? I think so. Yeah, possibly. I'm I'm 280 combinations? I think that's how you do it, yeah. I don't remember anymore. I Dude, I've been reading a book called Three-Body Problem. I watched the show. Uh was the show any good? Uh yeah, I liked it. You have to You have to really watch it. Like it's not one you can just like have
I don't know. Let me tell you, the book is like I had to study physics again. I was like, what the [ __ ] is happening? So, I like all that knowledge is just gone as soon as you're out of school. So, um So, yeah, anyway, Small World, my number five, uh perfect game for this list. All right. So, this one's going to be an interesting one because this one I have only played a couple times, but there's so much re-playability in this box, uh the core box. You get stuff in the expansions as well. Um and this is one you actually talked up quite a bit. So, I ended up finding a copy myself. Um and that's going to be Grim Covenant.
Oh, nice. Because How many bosses are in the core? Is it four or six? I can't remember. There are
in the core game. I know there's some that come with the expansions. I want to say there's four in the core, maybe and then one in each of the one in each of those other boxes.
there were seven total. Okay, so maybe four
So, I think it's five in the core game.
Okay. Well, how however many there is in the core game, they each have five like scenarios for each one. So that So it's like and you can replay them over and I mean stuff's going to happen differently and stuff. It's not like you cuz this is These are all one shots. It's not like a campaign. So you are going to you can play the same scenario and it you know, not be tired of it because it's going to be different stuff, you know. You can do different heroes. You can do different you know, stuff like that. But um this one was one that I I didn't back regrettably. Um And then cuz I hadn't really done much with Awaken Realms at that point. Um and then you got it and it looked cool and we're talking it up. And then I finally started like I watched your video on it. So then I tried to find a copy. I found it all in. So got it finally. Um and it's uh it's everything everything that you said it was. That's for sure. Um And I got Sundrop too.
my stuff. I'm right every time.
All my opinions Correct. I'm not a narcissist. And the weird thing with this I mean I know this is cuz right now this list is talking like if you could go back out and buy the core game again or whatever. I don't know if the acrylic tokens come in the in the base game at the which may be a savior because Yeah, it's true.
The The only thing The only acrylic tokens that are good in this game are the shield ones. I like the shield ones. Yeah.
Um the other ones are just odd cuz you can't even tell what's on them. The yellow and the
dice too. These I don't even use them. I don't even think I got got them funny enough. Uh I have them but I don't ever I don't uh
You can't read them. Yeah. Yeah, so
remind me of those uh popsicles like those strawberry popsicles um that have like the crumbs on them. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah.
after your time. But that's what they remind me of.
No, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know what you're talking about. Uh but anyway, yeah. So this one is just badass. I mean with having the five scenarios for each one. It's a difficult game. Um you the heroes are so different um
Yeah. and everything that that this one's just it's just bonkers. And it's good enough that even if you had to go out and buy it rebuy it and get the standee version, I still think I mean the game's good enough to deal with the standees. You know, I mean, yeah, if you could find the miniatures one, go for it, but but uh the standee version it's the game is just that good that you don't have to have all the bling necessarily. Yeah, they just did something awesome with this one. I think Awaken Realms is the perfect example of a company that has a ton of content, but has somehow streamlined their their [ __ ] I know you weren't the biggest fan of STALKER and its line of sight. Right.
But I just I I mean for I play so many of these [ __ ] games, dude, that every time it's like, well, how does it move? And what's the targeting? What's the line of sight? It's like, I don't know. Some games try to be cute with it Right.
obnoxious. Uh so STALKER was just like, yeah, I know. You you should be able to see him, but let's just let's just pretend, you know, use our imagination that he's not standing there like a [ __ ] idiot letting you shoot him. Right. Right.
And maybe he lied on the ground or he popped a smoke so you can't see him. The same the same thing happens here where wherever you're standing, it's just straight line. Yeah. Like if you are um Well, the dragon is actually a really bad example cuz he covers up two spots, but uh Oh, no. If you're if you're here where this five is, Right. you can't hit him. Right. Because it's just you can hit this way, that way, and that way. And some people would be like, why can't you do corner to corner? Cuz that's [ __ ] dumb. Right. I I know. It's not dumb. It's just I like these kinds of games to not bog me down where I'm living in the rulebook. Right. Oh, yeah.
And this game was just so quick to get to the table to understand what's happening and it's a phenomenal boss battler. So, I have a question real quick since we're on this game and you you play it more than I have. So, there was a podcast I was listening to and they were doing a their big review was on this game. Mhm. And they were comparing they were comparing it to Cthulhu Death May Die. And they said that they didn't like this cuz they like Death May Die better. But I don't get that feeling. I I guess it's because you go cuz you you you get better the more you That is the only comparison.
Yeah, I think I think that was it. I mean the corrupt corruption that you get in this game. Yeah, it has that element, but nothing else about it is the same. Yeah. I mean that was a podcast I listen to all the time. Okay, yeah. Well, you should probably quit listening to them cuz they sound stupid. No. Uh no, I don't know who they are. I don't listen to board game podcasts. But that would be the equivalent of me saying, "Well, I don't really like Lost Ruins of Arnak because I like Dominion." Right. Yeah, they're deck builders, but they play completely different. Yeah, well, uh that's such a minor aspect. It's it's a weird comparison. So, I don't get Death May Die vibes from this at all. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't either. I just didn't know if you did or not. That's what I
Cuz Death May Die No, Death May Die is not a boss battler. I Yeah, it's a good game. Love it.
very much. All right. Nice. All right, my number four. This was actually one I thought you were talking about, but then you mentioned expansion and I'm I was thinking, "Well, okay, this this will have expansion, but not right now." Um this is one I've just been super enamored with. I I bumped it up a point last time we talked about it because it it just needed it. And this is another competitive game, but at two, and that is Tag team. This one was my number seven. Ooh, wow.
close it was. That's how close it was to get it. Yes, I I was like, okay, this or Burn Cycle. This or Burn Cycle. And I went with Burn Cycle cuz if there was like I don't know. There's it's there's so much in this small box that that's what almost got it in there. I know. I I wanted to have a game War Chest also was considered for me. Um I wanted to have a game in this that that just allowed for that kind of if I only have five games that I'm keeping I want one that just gets better. It's no longer about the game but about kind of like who you're playing against. Almost how chess turns into peop for people where everyone knows how to play chess but it's understanding the deeper level of it and against the opponent. What your what strategies your opponent might might do. This game kind of has that but obviously it's not as expansive as as chess but with the 12 fighters in this core box the sheer combination of even if you get the same combination the order of cards you're going to get is going to be different.
The opponent who they have is going to be different. Um that this is also like a $20 game. Yeah, it's so good. I I just I and I I've done a ranking on my fighters uh Yeah, I watched it. Yeah, I agree with you on a lot of those. That was a good list. I actually ended up redoing it cuz I had done that ranking once and then I I kept them in that order and I'm like, okay, I'll just go to and and record it. But as I was talking about it, I'm I was thinking, well, I actually some of these need to be higher, some need to be lower. So the video that I ended up uploading was me re-ranking them for myself. But I God. it's just I'm enamored with this one. I absolutely love it.
Cannot wait for more content, but wouldn't matter for this list anyway. I don't even need it. The 12 fighters in this one are solid by themselves. So, if you're not familiar with it, it's a it's a auto battler where you have variable heroes or fighters, whatever they're called. Here they are. Yeah, these are the fighters that you have. They all play differently. They all have their own unique set of cards that you're putting in, but you always start with two cards in your deck and after you play through the deck, which I guess What's considered a deck? How many cards is considered a deck? Right. After you play the two cards, then you draw three from a side deck and you put one in somewhere in those two. And you're trying to match up and encounter and and create combos to go against your opponent. Your opponent's doing the exact same thing. So, then you flip the card and it's in a new order and you just go through that until one of the two heroes is dead.
And then you just play again. This one has become just a stable game that I will bring with me if I'm if it's just me and someone else to to game cuz it's that easy to learn and the sheer amount of replayability that it has is insanely high. Yeah, it's it's outstanding.
I know, right? See, this is a competitive game that we both like. Right? That's true. That's true, but they're also the games all the competitive games that you like are ones I've recommended. That's my number four.
That's my number four, Tag Team. All [clears throat] right. So, Grim Covenant was one of the ones that I thought was going to be a crossover. Um, this one I think will be
enough, I I tried to stay away from campaign games. Grim Covenant is a good
have one, obviously, because I mean one a lot of campaign games are one and done. You finish them, you move on. Uh some of them are not that way, but I don't know. Board game campaign games for me are so hard to replay. I sent you that meme of like, you've already played Last of Us 10 times, but not 11. Yeah, I know. Uh and that's easier to do. I've I've replayed so many video games, you know, that aren't that are campaigns, but board games I'm kind of like, okay, I'm done. Well,
it was hard for me to pick campaign games.
I I I knew what your either one or two was going to be on this list. Um so we'll get to that when it gets there, but
Yeah, it's Empires of the North. No, no. It's way up there. I I know what it is, I'm pretty sure. Um anyway, this one's the one I think would would possibly be the other crossover. Um okay. So my number three has 17 [snorts] different things that you can play against with all the different climbers in it. Um and that is Leviathan Wilds. You would think I would put Leviathan Wilds on my list
if I wasn't an idiot. I do not have this on my list because I'm You know, it's it's funny. I I was so hung up on the expansions Uh-huh. that I think for some reason some games I I immediately thought of the expansion and just then dis- discounted the game. Mhm. Uh and but funny enough, I didn't even think of this one. Yeah, this one
So This is this would be a good one. Yeah, there's so much. I mean, there's so many climbers, there's all those different um skills, I guess is what you kind of call them, that you skill decks, but there's 17 Leviathans just in the base game. Uh there's then there's a bunch more coming. I mean, there's already another I think the the first expansion had like what seven more I want to say or something like that. And then all the other expansions that are coming are going to have a bunch. It's But what what got me This was on my list before, but Friday night I went to the game store and none of the guys had played this before and they wanted me to bring it teach it to them. So, I I like just open up the book and I was like, all right. I was like, pick which one you want to go against. Oh, interesting.
Yeah. And they picked the fourth one. It was like the one with all the tentacles like the octopus had the big eye that would open and close. Oh, okay. Yeah. So, that's the one they picked and um and uh so, we went through and I taught it to him and we we won. But it was like it was uh it was fun. I you know, I hadn't ever played it with four people. I was going to ask how that went.
Yeah, I've only played it with one or two, you know, and it actually it actually went fine. We you rifle through that damn that damn bad guy line of cards though. I mean, like we were up to on threat fast just because of everybody every you know, there's five cards six cards Yeah. Five or six
But I imagine that the Leviathan cards are actually more dynamic because you there's no longer Oh, the highest climber is no longer me or you. It's now it can change with the amount of climbers. So, I imagine it's actually better with more people. It was pretty good. I mean, and with the cuz like there's Well, that one particular I think it was the keeper. I can't remember what that one was called with the eye, but anyway, um he he had these really big splash damage cards. And it was like it was like, man, if you had to stay apart or something cuz it was like massive. And then he had the one where his eyes were open. It was a big chunk. And if his eyes were open, it would do the whole row and three rows Okay. So, it was just like like, oh crap. So, I like one of us hung out at the eye and kept hitting it to close it and all that.
Yeah, just bonk in his eye. It's like don't stop. But but yeah, it was fun and and you know and and teaching now these weren't beginners I was teaching these guys play games all the time so it was it was a pretty easy teach and stuff but there's just so much with this thing game and there's so many so many things to do with it that this was this was one of the first ones I thought of and I mean it's not my number one obviously but it's one of the first ones I thought of just because of the the total craziness of replayability that you can have with it you know cuz just I mean even in your character you know there's all those different roles there's your characters there's so many different ones you you can mix and match and just that is got replayability and and your player decks and then the the monsters themselves and I don't think the the mutagen pack didn't come with the base game so I'm not going to I won't talk about that but no it was an add-on and no one even uses it Yeah from what I can understand but it's just it's just bonkers how good this game is and yeah and stuff and the teamwork you need to do like this one really brings in teamwork that's what we there was a lot of table talk and teamwork when we played with four that's one thing that changed for sure so yeah I mean that's this one's was kind of a no-brainer for me yeah it's not without its faults but still it's it's cuz like the I wish it was a spiral less book that would you know I bet you
Like you could probably take it out super yeah take it out yeah you know that's actually a good idea do it yourself Yeah you could and then and then and then the the damage marker that big splash thing which I will tell you if you use the ones that I mean obviously this is going away from the core game thing but if you use the ones that came in like the upgrade pack they're translucent red so you can actually see the spots a little better through them. And it makes it it makes a little bit better. So, if you switch your opaque ones to the translucent ones, it actually does do a little bit better as far as being able to see the spots and stuff. But But yeah, I mean, this one outstanding game. And and from the looks of it, when you look at that the world map on the back, they're going to come out with all kinds of crap for this game. I know. I know.
Too bad we won't be able to get them. Oh, if we can only have the base game. The next expansion's going to have I think it's going to supposed to be a book like the size of this one. It's supposed to be like I think so. Another core another like almost core game. I always forget, but they do I thought I know I want to say it was going to it was going to be in the teens again.
11. Oh, 11. Okay, so so it's so it's kind of in between cuz there were 17 and then there was like six or seven in Deep Vale. Yeah. And funny enough, I'm actually more excited about the three new climbers.
Oh, yeah, the climbers are badass. I like the new one. The edge.
The new one's really good. I'm I'm hoping yeah, along with three new classes cuz that was the one thing that was lacking with Deep Vale. Yeah. Was it was only one It's he's really good, but it's just the one. Um I think they're going to go big, small probably big, little small maybe cuz they have they have like what six more parts of the world or something they've got to still work on.
I'd have to look at the map again. I don't remember.
It's a super popular game and yeah. And it's And it's I would I would say it's basically cheap to make, Yeah, low risk. Yeah. So, and I I cannot remember where did this the Moon Crab Games, they came from somewhere. Are they old Plaid Hat? Nah, I don't think so.
I remember I can't remember where they originally used they used to work Oh, Fantasy Flight. Z-Man. It was Z-Man, not Plaid Hat. Yeah, cuz Z-Man went under. And then cuz that's where they picked them up and then they kind of just like uh whatever.
Yeah, I knew it was a it was a high high-end publishing company, but yeah, all the people with Plaid Hat I think went back to Plaid Hat because they got their own company back. Yeah. So every good like publishing company now is former Fantasy Flight. Because they were they were juggernauts back in the day, man.
And then just kind of
went away. All right. Well, good choice. So good in fact that it is actually my number three. Are you serious? Yeah, it actually is. The the uh yeah, I mean everything that you said for it was I don't know why I retyped it in.
Yeah, it it was so apparent in terms of replayability. Everything that you said it what's interesting is sometimes whenever we get expansions and it's hard to remember what comes in the core game. Mhm. Cuz you just eventually lump them all into one. Right. But what's fascinating about this game is that they're all individual books. So you don't even have to touch the expansion if you don't want to. And yeah, the amount of variety with all the different Leviathans, the world is cool. It's not a campaign game. So the and then what not just the the Leviathans like you were saying, but the classes in the the climbers. That that makes a match.
Uh it creates so much replayability. You can fight the same exact Leviathan with a different core mix of climbers and it's going to create a different experience. Yep. So yeah, I don't have much to add. This one's phenomenal and I know we can't talk about expansions for this one, but I I'm I'm stoked for more content. Oh, yeah, for sure. All right, going to my number two. Yep.
Um this is the newest one on my list. Um by the time my whole collection disappears, this will be at retail. So, um cuz it's not currently at retail right now. Um but uh this one um it's got a little bit of recency bias to it. But, I like it so much.
Ingrimm Coven didn't. Well, that's true, but yeah, I guess that's true. But, you can buy at retail this week you can't yet. Um but this this one has a lot of region recency bias with it because of how much I'm I I just I keep thinking about this game and I'm excited for Tuesday. Um oh, no way.
and that's disgusting. And and and yes, this one this one's my number two cuz I I there's a lot in the core game with this. Like cuz that whole first book is going to be a there's several games in the first book. Um and everything with that. So, uh and with the the amount of heroes and all that jazz, not counting the expansion I know there cuz there was what four in the expansion or whatever, but Something like that. And then the whole act two. Yeah. So, just having the act one, I mean is is a lot of game play, especially if you're just running through this solo uh with a couple characters or whatever. Um I don't even really have any good pictures to show. It's all the minis.
But, um I love man, this this one's one I just I I've been like really amped up on this one. Uh and excited to see how it goes. I I think doing the little switcheroo that we're talking about doing um with the uh the turn order each round instead
Oh, the initiative track.
Yeah, yeah. We'll we'll we'll I'm interested to see how that works. Um but uh but yeah, I mean I didn't have really a a dungeon crawl on this on this list. Uh this was kind of taking that spot. Um and It's Yeah, I guess I don't either. I just I just like I don't know, man. I I know
I I don't know either. I know there's a I know there's some faults with it and stuff like that, but I just for some reason this one Now, to be fair, a lot of their faults are um they are fixable. Yeah, they're and they're getting fixed, too. I mean
And they are getting fixed, but at the time of our discussion [clears throat] and at the time of right now, they are not fixed. Right. Right. And apparently, one thing that's also weird about the company itself, they they only mainly communicate through Discord. So, a lot of frustration that people have had trying to reach out to them cuz I emailed them uh about Tainted Expedition Right.
and never heard back. Bro, [clears throat] so apparently it's all through Discord, which I think is a horrible medium for communication if you're trying to get a hold of creators. They got back with me on the Game Found uh page when I asked a question. Oh, they did? Well, that's good.
Yeah.
[clears throat]
But Maybe that's from But yeah, I'm not I mean I haven't written this game off by any means. I I I'm just not as enamored with it as as you are. Well, and I think it's just it to me it's a fresh It's a fresh thing. Like, you know, like dungeon crawlers Um of course, I haven't played like like um the uh uh what's the one that you have that I the Darkness? Um The Darkness. The one that I'm not that I'm not going to
Massive Darkness. Massive Darkness, yes. I haven't played that one, and I know it's got unique stuff, but like having the demon aspect of this and being able to choose that demon and and try to ramp them up to come out at the right time. Um and all that plus the having the card abilities and the action point allocations so you can actually spend action points on other players' turns to do stuff.
What's that?
not with it. Well, we don't have the We don't have tokens to track that. We do [clears throat] now. Yeah, no, you you have to put them out. They're probably going to be better than what [clears throat] they uh they give. No, I know. I I I think now after having our our original session with this one, it'll go smoother uh and I have created a how-to play, which I have not done in many, many years. Right. So, if you're wondering how the hell do you play this game, well, this guy's got you. Well, and if you're watching this and you you love Odalys too and you're really good at creating 3D deals, hook us up hook us up with the files. I'll pay you. I I will pay someone to do a Yeah, an insert for it because Cuz man, it's fun.
the way I did it, my unboxing uh works a little bit better, but yeah, I think a 3D insert would make it cleaner. And I have your dividers here, too. You'll just have to cut them out and stuff, but Uh those I'll be bringing, too. But uh but yeah, anyway, Odalys like I said, it's I right now this is my dungeon of choice, dungeon crawler of choice. I really want to see where it goes and how the leveling up of our characters goes and when we start getting into those higher-level equipment and stuff like that.
I'm surprised you did not pick Cthulhu: Death May Die. That core box also has a [ __ ] ton of replayability.
was It was on my list. I mean, so was a game like Spartacus. I had Spartacus on my list, too, cuz the core game, but but it plays better with five to six players, so that's why I didn't have it because you can only play four with the base, but um but yeah, this one's this one's my my dungeon crawl and I I don't know. All right.
I'm I'm enjoying it so far.
If If anyone tries to tell you recency bias is not real, it very much is. Um Well, I But I Brad also suffers from CTE, which is also a myth. Well, I have I haven't I haven't played this. When was When did we have our game day for this? It's been I don't know, a couple weeks. Yeah. And like this is this is the game I keep I keep thinking like, okay man, well, you know, this is going to be cool. Yeah, I keep watching videos on it, like different stuff like that, trying to do stuff. It's like you know, I'm All right.
I'm amped up for Tuesday, so we'll see when we
when we play, so yeah, that's my number two.
Cool. All right. My number two was one of the first that I also thought of for this list because while it does have a million expansions for it, the core box has I mean, you really just need that because the sheer amount of combinations that you can have within the market is going to be huge, and that is Dominion. Oh, yeah. Uh second edition that came out in 2016. Uh this was my deck builder of choice. I thought about Aeon's End, even though I do like Aeon's End more than Dominion. Something about the simplicity of this one just put it onto this list. I love the the sheer amount of card combinations that you can have. Right. And base Dominion has a ton of cards that you can throw into the market that's going to give you tons of different ways to actually play.
And it's quick, too. So, whenever you're playing just a true uh deck, I was going to say dungeon crawler, a true deck builder like Dominion, it just allows for that amount of re-playability. Now, should this one be a little bit lower cuz I can I maybe if you only had base Dominion, the cards might get repetitive, and you would want some freshness for the expansions, which the the expansions definitely bring. Maybe, but I don't know. I've always been able to go to base Dominion and just have a blast with it. The the amount of attack cards and regular cards that go in and the simplicity of just trying to either empty out the three cards in the market or the province deck works really well for me.
So, I like I said, I didn't want to just have cooperative games on my list. And this one, as I was looking at it, I just kept thinking that as a pure deck builder, it was one of the best ones to to go out and and get. And it's also affordable. Which I didn't take into consideration. I wasn't thinking, you know, I have to keep it on a budget. But I Maybe I subconsciously did just because if I was to restart or, you know, the entire collection's gone, I would probably be fuming at the amount of money lost, but then maybe after years went by, I'd probably try to pick some back up. And I wouldn't want to I would never drop a [ __ ] ton of money into a huge collection again because What if it What if I lost it all again?
Yeah. Yeah. So, a lot of the games that I've talked to up to this point have been affordable games and readily available. Now that I think about it, you can just go out and buy all of these games on on regular source. Maybe not Leviathan Wilds. I don't know how readily available that one is. I think you can get it out there pretty Yeah. Pretty decent. I think Game Nerds has it. Okay.
Um maybe not that hard to get if you're looking for it, but Sure, but not I mean, you can just go to a game store and pick it up. Yeah. And I think that helps a lot because that's I mean, I I wanted to go back to my roots on when I got into the hobby, which is kind of the same feeling you would get. And uh one of my dogs just ripped so much ass, it smelled like something was burning. Which is appropriate because I was thinking, oh no, we're going to watch live, not live, but I'm going to upload this as we watch my entire collection catch in flames. And you'll see a bright flash and you'll hear a gunshot because I'm Yeah, well, then it's over. Uh anyway, Dominion, my number two. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good one.
Um I don't own that. I did a long time ago. Um I replaced it with Thunderstone Quest, but I Yeah. kind of just wish I would have kept my Dominion. I mean, Thunderstone Quest is fine.
is phenomenal. Honestly, it's one of the few apps that I actually play cuz some something about board game apps does not keep me engaged. But and at the same time, my girlfriend got me a couple Christmases ago a lazy Susan Yeah. for Dominion and that is so nice to play this with. So, yeah, it's it's super solid. Now, your number one. I don't think you'll guess it. I mean, when I say it, you will understand why, but I don't think you'll ever guess it. Hmm. Hmm. Well, it's cooperative. It can be, but I prefer solo. Interesting. So, it's a cooperative game that you two-hand. Uh no, I solo solo it. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Uh Settlers of Catan. No, you have to play as four. Yeah. I have no idea.
All right, so this some people may call this a bit of a cheat, but you can buy this box um at any game store even though it has some of the expansions in the box, but it's called the ultimate edition. Um so, that's why you can just buy this box. Oh, Mage Knight. Yeah, it's Mage Knight ultimate edition. Um
[clears throat]
so
that I would not consider that a cheat because that is it is all in one box. Cuz you can't buy the other version now. Like this is the version you have to buy if you buy Mage Knight. Yeah. Um That's a good one. That's a good pick. Yeah, this one has tons and tons gameplay in it. They're long strategic games. It's going to always be different deck building. You know, you're uh you know, you've got your explore exploration. There's just so much going on. Like this is the heaviest game on my list by far. Um I BGG has it at at a 4.66. Um and you know, that's just
Interesting. Yeah, just just doing the this game like Really? Why is it so high? I don't find this game that that
I I think it's just all the stuff you have to keep track of. And I mean the deck building the deck building portion is not difficult. It's just everything else you're keeping track of I think is what kind of kind of makes it difficult. Okay. Um but uh Yeah, I mean everything is nice in there. You got everything's painted. You know, and everything when you get it and everything too. Well, regular Mage Knight was too.
All the all the the your heroes were painted and everything. Um but uh yeah, I mean this one has so much you can do in this game and play and just everything. And then you know, there's a there's actually another standalone version of this coming out. Uh like a core game. It's kind of It's kind of like the Jaws of the Lion version of this. That's what that that Really? teaser was that I was told you when I said Mage Knight more Mage Knight coming and Paul Grogan said that.
I I immediately dismissed that. I'm like, okay. I thought you were talking about the Apocalypse Dragon. I'm like, yeah, it I know that. No, it's coming. I have it on pre-order and it's waiting on another game to get in before I get it. Uh but anyway, the but that new one is coming out and it's a standalone game. The the factions, the enemies and stuff can still be used in Oh, okay.
regular Mage Knight, but it's like it's Jaws of the Lion. So, it's more of an entry way into the system and stuff. So, which is pretty cool cuz this one's always been intimidating, you know, to try to get into cuz everyone says it's yeah.
be nice if it was literally a tutorial in you know, with with actual content that then allows you to go out and get Mage Knight. You already know how to play. It That's exactly what it does cuz I watched the interview with stuff. It's they are tutorial missions. They they they handhold you and actually tell you what cards to play. Okay. Do the first and then the second one they kind of give you a little bit more and let their and then they let their hands off further and then by the time you're halfway through the box you're like playing on your own. Nice. More games need to do that. Right. Which I I don't know. I don't know how I feel about tutorials handholding you so much but for campaign games like Gloomhaven or Mage Knight, which I guess Mage Knight isn't necessarily a campaign but it definitely helps you understand what the hell is going on. Yeah. Yeah, so I'll pick it up just because it has more heroes and Yeah.
and and you know, enemies that you can put into the game but and then of course that other one's the campaign but I won't talk about that cuz that's an expansion but but anyway, so yeah, this one you just there's so much so much you do with this game. There's so many cards and so much stuff that you're doing and so many decisions and so
I would like a a game that just had the has the the deck building element. I really like the way this game uses its deck building with the the mana that's available. You can buff it. I think that'd be a cool either 1v1 or cooperative deck building game. Yeah. That'd be neat. Cuz I I mean I like that portion the best. I don't necessarily care about the the map stuff. Or if if the scenarios that I maybe that I've just played the wrong ones but or cuz I haven't played the ultimate edition. Right.
I find the scenarios to be boring. It'd be cooler if they were they were just constructed better, maybe a little bit more narrative. Yeah. So, I I don't know.
They get better. Like, some of the early ones were boring, but then they start ramping up. And then when you play the cuz they have the three original expansion things in this ultimate edition, and those add more story stuff, too. Like, the Lost Legion, and Krang and the Shades of Tesla. Uh those add more story lines, too, and everything, but but yeah, this one just because of the sheer cuz the games aren't short. These games take
No, yeah.
a long time, too. So, this is one of those that would be my like your time-consuming, brain-burning kind of like cuz even play playing a solo game, it takes almost 3 hours. Um
Yeah. and stuff, so it's it's a it's a long one, but but this would be one. I like how when you click on you know what it's best at you're like best like 82% best at one. It's like So, it's like, yeah. And that's so true solo. Like, just for a character and everything, so uh Yeah.
I mean, this was kind of a an easy one to put here just because
That's ins- I've never seen that high of a not recommended at a player count.
I know. 80's crazy. 84 and 95%. Cuz the game would take 6 [ __ ] hours.
It's like it's like
Like, playing it solo takes, like I said, almost, you know, 2 and 1/2, 3 hours. And I mean, that that would be bonkers. I played it two players once, and it took a long damn time. And I'm just
Yeah, I've played it at two and then one. When I did my review for it, I played it solo. Yeah. And I And well, I don't have this one rated. I think I have this at a seven. the version that I played. Yeah, this is the one. No, but I love this old school. Uh from two God, why does the game look like it's from 2000, which I guess is 26 years ago, but they look like they're from the 40s. They look so ancient. Although I do I
A Whiz Kids. Okay. Yeah, uh anyway, the 2011 version. I think I gave it a 6.5. Okay. So I'd probably give this like a 9.5. Uh probably. Maybe closer to 10.
by Star Trek Frontiers. It is. Yeah, it's it's
It's it's a Which is better cuz it's Star Trek. [ __ ]
I I'm not a I don't
I think of nothing. I think
it here. Star Trek sucks. Yeah, and Star Wars is killing it in the modern era. Well, you know.
They I mean they fired everyone that was in charge of Star Wars. Um all right. My number one
your number one is. I told you it's Empire. It's Empire's of the North.
It's it's it's it's a it's a really You said you had one campaign game on here and it's a big ass box that starts with an A and it's a campaign game. Yeah, and it wouldn't it wouldn't fit into the 250 budget.
No, not at all. The core box itself doubles that. Uh yep, it's Aeon Trespass. Oh.
Um Never mind. That's not the one I was thinking. Oh, were you thinking of Aridia? Yeah.
Oh, you idiot.
[gasps]
Well, cuz I didn't know how cuz I wouldn't have guessed Aeon Trespass cuz I knew it had a [ __ ] ton of expansions. That's why I went with
though. That's the thing.
Cuz cuz Aridia's all just in one box, you know. It isn't one box. Aridia is very, very good. I love Aridia. However, and this isn't just because Aeon Trespass That's so funny that you thought you're like, it starts with an A. I'm like, he's got it.
Uh no. So, Aeon Trespass It's not just because this is my favorite game, even though it is. Uh the core box of Aeon Trespass is three cycles. The expansions are literally only cycles four and five. Right.
Now, but you could honestly play one cycle and and have a full experience. And the Like I said, it's not just because it's my favorite game. The sheer amount of content in this game from a narrative perspective is insane. Because as you're going through a cycle, let me see if I could find a picture of the campaign sheet. I might have to go to their website. You know what? Let's just go to the old Google Aeon Trespass Odyssey campaign log. Resources, printable sheets. It is Oh, yeah, there's also the Nestors Theater as well. But is it the Argo sheet?
No, it's not. It is No. Well, I can't find it. But there is a um Maybe it's the back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. It's turned sideways, but the biggest reason why I actually picked Aeon Trespass Odyssey is because again, three cycles which are insane. But over the course of the game, you have this choice matrix right here. They're not even looking at. Right, yeah. Got you.
But as you make decisions through the narrative, you will mark these and these carry over from cycle to cycle. So you make choices that drastically impact the narrative. And not only I mean these can these cycles are long. But you make individual decisions that allow for a ton of replayability. Not only can you do different builds based off the equipment that you're going to get to fight the bosses. Yeah, it's going to be the same bosses per cycle, but the there are so many adventure hubs in in the game so those are all side stories that you don't even get to complete just by sheer randomness of which ones come up. But those all have different decisions. So the amount of content narratively speaking is insane.
The different nemeses that you get for your Argonauts is insane. Uh So that was the main reason that I could honestly just play cycle one over and over and over and get a completely different narrative experience. And so that was the main reason why it's it it beat out all other campaign games. Sure there are campaign games that have a decent amount of replayability. Dragon Eclipse you could have different Pokémon and it does have some different choices. Tainted Grail same thing. But none of them are on the level that this one has. On top of the actual writing that comes with it is fantastic. So I mean here I mean I think this is a yeah base game. This is all the base game stuff Jeez. that it comes with.
And each cycle is a different region that you are traversing through. So you have three cycles. So that's kind of where I was coming from. Yeah. I mean that makes sense. I just I just see all your boxes and I just thought, you know, like you know, I just thought maybe there was more with it. That's why I didn't have it on my There was there had to be a decision with whenever I was coming up with the top five. And I couldn't not just throw in a game that was in my in my favorites of all time. Cuz that would just be weird to me. So I picked uh Aeon Trespass Odyssey. Yeah.
Cuz I don't know where Aurelia is going to land once I'm done. Even though I've had a I've had a blast every single time I A really it to me is what Odalys is to you right now.
Right. Right. And I'm always excited. So, when I start it, we'll see. Yeah, for sure. So, So, yeah. That was my uh pick for games I would And honestly, funny enough, this game alone is cost more than my entire list. Uh They have the uh the pledge manager still open Yeah.
And it's like what is $1,100 to get everything? That's I'm just like, "No, that's okay. I'll Yeah, I think it's a well, it's because it's 12 cents of Hercules, as well. Right. Right. It's just like which is
Damn. just yeah, it's a it's a ton of content. And if I was to restart my collection, it would definitely be a game like this that I wouldn't get bored of. Um unlike a lifestyle game of yours, Shadows of Brimstone, that core box probably sucks, which is why it's not in your list. Right. Yeah, the core box is not good, either one of those. You have to have all the monsters for more variety and stuff.
Mhm. So.
Yep. All right. Well, that was it, everyone. Those were our top five games that we picked to restart our collection. Let us know what games you would pick in the comments below. Other than that, like, comment, share, and subscribe, and have a wonderful whatever time of day this is for you.